Bernie Sanders
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Hilary supporters will be braging about new PPP poll of Hilary ahead in iowa 43% to 22%
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/09/trump-still-leads-iowa-clinton-in-good-shape.html
I'd avise not to go into GD-P too much today.
djean111
(14,255 posts)about polls and endorsements. Polls go up and down. I know who I am voting for, and who I am not going to vote for. So I'm good. Also, I don't click on stuff like that, there is no point in doing that.
If she buys the nomination, I will be quitting DU and concentrating on starting the blog I always wanted to start, and figuring out how to save my 20 year old grandson from having to go kill people or be killed himself.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)If she wins nomination I will be leaving DU and staying home on election day.
I might return if she loses to republican as i suspect she would if she wins nomination.
I just know the hilary supporters once they hear will be braging about her "Comeback"
PPP is genraly good in GE but flawed in primarys.This happened in past.
I refuse to concede she will win nomination.that's giving up.
The current state of the world has proved to me that I made the right decision to not bring children into this world
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)Even if I didn't fulfill my "manifest destiny" as a woman. (I heard that once - no lie.)
Almost as bad as my being told I shouldn't be allowed near children, being bisexual.
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)...that there are buckets and buckets of stupid on this planet!
marym625
(17,997 posts)93% of the people are stupid
left on green only
(1,484 posts)I made the decision never to pollute our tiny planet with any more of my species when I was 14yo, way back at the onset of the Vietnam war. Imagine my disappointment at that age when I was told that I was too young to have a vasectomy. Ah yes, but where there is a will, there is a way.
marym625
(17,997 posts)I was 14 also. But that was after the Vietnam war was over.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Paka
(2,760 posts)The worst was by a war-mongering Israeli backpacker in Thailand. I did put her in her place, but it gets very tiresome.
Since I never married, the subject never came up with a potential father. The flack comes exclusively from women.
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)...but I have had several relationships end because of my "no children" clause. At the beginning, I always said, "I don't have any desire to have kids." I would hear, "That's OK." Several months later (or a couple of years, in one case), the relationship would end. The reason? "I thought if you had the right man you would change your mind."
(More like if I had the right mind, I would change my man. Ended up working out that way for me.)
Paka
(2,760 posts)to pick quys where the issue never came up.
I had one good friend who didn't want children and when he married, his wife was fine with it. After several years, she secretly stopped her birth control and surprise?? turned up pregnant. She was sure he would come around. Instead, he filed for divorce.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)My only vote will be for Bernie.
YabaDabaNoDinoNo
(460 posts)I will leave the Democratic Party after 30+ years as a member, if she is the nominee I will vote but not for her.
I really don't care much about polls but I do know that I do not know a single living breathing person who will vote for her
The polls may say she can beat the Donald but I doubt it. She does not now nor will she inspire the base to even turn out to vote for her. Turn out to vote Against her yes but for her not so much.
marym625
(17,997 posts)When you get down to it, there's still a fairly large percentage of people who don't know about Bernie Sanders. And he still has a lower "unfavorable" rating than Clinton.
Just a matter of time before Sanders leads everywhere.
senz
(11,945 posts)because Bernie is in it for the people. So his win is everyone's win (except the oligarchs).
Robbins
(5,066 posts)I put another hilary supporter on my ignore list.
On social safety net,issues of war,trade unions and economy these are personal to me.There is only one choice-bernie.Hilary is
terrable on all of these.
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)and it showed HRC up by 27 points. So the movement is in the right direction.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)the memo will be she is surging back after the Q and CBS Iowa polls.
n8dogg83
(248 posts)from an election any one poll is essentially meaningless, reflecting name recognition more than anything else (as even Nate Silver will attest to). If people want to use polls as an indicator, look at the trends of polls over time. The important part imo is that the trend of the polls are generally favorable to Bernie and show he is slowly but steadily gaining ground.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Do they know we have access to The Internets? And memories?
aspirant
(3,533 posts)when he was leading in 2 previous polls. Who in their right mind believes this stuff?
What were the pollsters to do when Bernie draws 25,000 plus at west coast events? Now that his 3000 to 5000 crowds at smaller events aren't getting national attention these pollsters are free to pull out everything in their bag of tricks.
Until polls are verifiable the crowd sizes should be the determining factor
Paka
(2,760 posts)it doesn't really matter what the polls say. Most certainly not at this early stage. At this point I see no reason to think that I won't have the opportunity to vote twice for Bernie next year. First in the primary and then in the general. If HRC is the nominee, I will most likely have to leave the democratic party. The standard bearer of my party must support the same values that are important to me, and quite simply, she does not.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)The day to day doesn't matter as much as the long haul ...
Bernie's got this ....
Aerows
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(39,961 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)anyway - unless I click on a post elsewhere that throws me back into The Pit.