Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumSomeday soon, it's gonna dawn on those who don't support Bernie
that he actually can win this race. To the nomination. And to the White House.
After the sheer panic and deep despair wear off, there will be a great realignment of the party. Everyone will be Bernie's friend, or want to be.
And we all will know who these opportunists are, and what to do with them. And so will Bernie.
I can hardly wait. Around Super Tuesday, March 1st, 2016, watch the fun!
SandersDem
(592 posts)I trust Bernie's judgement when it comes to sifting through opportunists and those best suited to achieve his goals when he gets elected President. Until that happens, every bernie voter should be welcome, even if they come late to the party.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)But we really do need to respect those who currently support Hillary, O'Malley, and others out there, no matter how much we disagree with them. It is far too early for anyone to be claiming victory.
I am made crazy by those who claim to like Bernie and his message but then go on to say he can't possibly win. I keep on saying, remember that guy with the odd name back in '08, the one who'd just been elected to the U.S. Senate? Remember how he couldn't possibly win the nomination? Remember what happened to him?
Pope Sweet Jesus
(62 posts)denying Clinton any viable path to the nomination, when the superdelegates realizes that Clinton Machine is nothing but a heaping junker and won't harm anyone.
There is no way that Clinton can win with very high untrustworthiness/unfavorables.
Suich
(10,642 posts)any money from special interest groups.
However, many members of Congress do.
Not counting Executive Order, how will Bernie Sanders be able to implement any of his ideas, if those who would come up with a bill in the first place, are beholden to the very people the 99% are against?
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Bernie's supporters are also focusing on removing from office, those who are beholden to Big Corps and Wall St by voting for the Progressives the Dem Leadership never supports.
See what happened in the last two mid terms. Voters just refused to accept the Third Way candidates anymore. The Party should have KNOWN not to push candidates on voters they did not want.
But the leadership is tone deaf and the lost us the House and Senate by refusing to back the real progressives.
However, voters did take matters into their own hands across the country, starting at local levels, putting Progressive issues on ballots and WINNING most of them. They also fielded progressive candidates in local and state elections, and won an amazing number of them. Now some of those candidates can run for Congress.
Iow, down ticket candidates NOT funded by Corps and the DNC will be helped by Bernie's popularity and the fact that we KNOW he is going to need as good a Congress as he can get.
Not to mention that this time, we will be engaged AFTER the election. He plans to make that happen. Millions of people pushing Congress to support him. No insiders pushing HIM to 'compromise' but the people engaged and active in making members of Congress know who they work for.
That is why he has stated he 'can't do it alone' that he needs a 'political revolution' and he is right.
tblue37
(65,409 posts)and Senate. That might take more than one election, but like the GOP, we need to think beyond one election.
Then we are supposed to push for more liberal Democratic candidates, instead of accepting whatever blue dog or recently switched Republican the party bosses try to saddle us with.
We are also supposed to have our elected officials' backs, as the Republican voters do, so they won't be too scared to speak up and to vote for liberal principles and policy.
And we are supposed to keep on their case, because they need ro be more afraid of crossing *us* than of crossing Rush Limbaugh or other mouthy RWers.
A president can't do it alone. We have to help.
Since congress is already full of RW Republicans and corporatist Democrats, and since incumbents and party establisment candidates comprise the available candidate list for this election, we won't have much choice in this election. But if we take the long view, we won't sit down and take it easy after the election--no matter who wins. Instead we will do as the GOP voters do: we will keep the pressure on our elected officials and on the media. We will also work to elect liberals to city, county, and state offices to fill the pipeline with experienced liberal candidates for the future.
Bernie means to start something of a revolution, for long term impact far beyond a single election.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)not recriminations. Let bygones be bygones.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)But, it may take longer than March 1st.
I don't know how many primaries Hillary has to lose in a row this time before she will concede, but hopefully she won't wait until the Democratic National Convention like she did the last time.