Opinion: Is Biden-Gillibrand the winning ticket for 2016? GRASPING AT STRAWS DEPT.

[Demeter]

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-biden-gillibrand-the-winning-ticket-for-2016-2015-09-16?siteid=YAHOOB

...Warren would indeed energize the party’s progressive wing, but Vermont Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders is already doing a great job of that. Sanders would fade quickly if Biden offered another alternative to Clinton and those energized voters would fall in line behind the vice president....

PURELY DELUSIONAL, FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY.

THE REEK OF DESPERATION IN THE MORNING...

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I'M NOT FALLING IN LINE WITH ANYONE EXCEPT BERNIE!

[JackInGreen]

1. I think TPTB

Are going to throw up anything they as bern-spray. Like Marinol to good BHO, there's no comparison.

[djean111]

2. I don't vote for Banker Buddies. I don't vote for obviously pandering VP choices.

The Gillibrand thing is such an obvious ploy - Looks a bit like Liz Warren! Iz a WOMAN! Them liberuls and ladeez can't tell the differunce! And Joe would be fun to have a beer with! As the bankers chortle!

Nonononono. That's my final answer, Alex.

[Demeter]

3. Not only that, but a Blue Dog!

Yeah, the "wave a woman in front of them and they will take the bait" reeks of cluelessness.

[Enthusiast]

15. An obvious ploy! You nailed it so accurately.

[magical thyme]

4. Biden:author of the Patriot Act; author of 3 strikes; author bankruptcy law

helped Strom Thurmon write the civil forfeiture and militarized police acts. helped write the drug laws.

maybe he should just stick to plagiarizing.

[retrowire]

5. really???

and now I'm solidly against Biden.

I was gonna do research on him if he decided to run but this really just saves me the time! thank you!

[magical thyme]

9. yes, really! it was absolutely shocking to me to learn it...

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/10/enough_with_the_joe_biden_nonsense_the_real_reasons_why_the_d_c_media_loves_him_but_progressives_should_run_away_screaming/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Counterterrorism_Act_of_1995

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/12/joe-biden-drafted-the-core-of-the-patriot-act-in-1995-before-the-oklahoma-city-bombing.html

[merrily]

22. So many things that Democrats love to blame on Bushco and only Bushco turn out

to have had a heavy Democratic component.

Apparently, mentioning things like that that makes me a Republican or something. (Because facts have a Republican bias?)

[kath]

19. You forgot: gave us Clarence Thomas on the SC

By his fucked up handling of the confirmation hearings; throwing Anita Hill under the bus by not letting those who could corroborate her testimony testify.

Will not vote for him.

No more Third Way Bullshit.
Enough is enough!

[merrily]

23. Which is another reason his VP pretty much has to be a woman.

[tomm2thumbs]

6. no gravitas

seeing her on various appearances, such as Bill Maher and in votes in Congress, I get no sense she would fit the bill

[LiberalElite]

7. Poor things really don't know what to do

oh, dear...

"Sanders would fade away quickly..." Yeah keep telling yourselves that.

[TM99]

8. Gillibrand is the worst kind of Blue Dog.

She 'evolves' on issues like DOMA and DADT and expects us not to remember that she was conservative one moment and seemingly liberal the next.

Fuck no, that is not a winning ticket. It is no different than Clinton and the neo-liberal she choose for VP. I am done with the New Dems/Third Way/DLC politicians. I will never vote for another one. Period.

[Enthusiast]

14. "I will never vote for another one. Period." Me too. I have had it.

[Old Crow]

10. "those energized voters would fall in line behind the vice president"...

... are you kidding me?! This is more than out-of-touch with reality--it's ridiculous.

[Demeter]

11. I know. I only post what I find

because I don't have a good enough imagination to make this stuff up!

[deutsey]

12. Another great example of how out of touch these establishment insiders really are n/t

[Enthusiast]

13. What crap! Just as we would expect from Marketwatch.

I watched the Biden-Colbert interaction.

Unlike many of my fellow DUers and the Marketwatch pundits, I did not see it as spontaneous, unscripted or heartfelt. I was not moved in the least. I know Joe Biden is an insider.

[Ed Suspicious]

18. Call me a cynic, but I'm right there with you.

[TBF]

21. Same here - of course the corporate stooges

were on DU with their "Biden is such a great person and it had nothing to do with running for president" BS. So transparent.

[Divernan]

16. Best straw grasping ever! "The Secret Service made her do it!"

Yup, that was the straw grasped by an in extremis/on-life-support Hillary supporter in the thread discussing her no-reason-given canceling of a public appearance portion of her fund-raising trip to Dallas next week.

26. JFK was killed in Dallas. For all we know, the Secret Sevice pulled the plug on the appearance.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=597829

All we get is some unspecified "conflict of interest". I propose the interest is in not being shown up for the lackluster candidate she is by a comparison of the 8,000 cheering voters who came to Bernie's Dallas appearance. Saw a photo of her public (i.e., they didn't have to pay $1,000 minimum to attend) gathering in Columbus - described as "several hundred".

Several hundred people gathered in front of her stage in a Downtown Columbus ballroom, but the room could have fit hundreds more to the side of the stage and in the balcony. A handful of demonstrators – supporters of Bernie Sanders, along with opponents of abortion rights – gathered outside.

"Several hundred" would have been the local Democratic committee people - who are typically ordered to attend such visits.

To that "crowd" - which looked more like a huddled and depressed group ordered to "stand close together so you look like a crowd" - Clinton hailed her husband, former President Bill Clinton, for presiding over a balanced federal budget. That's an achievement (Ohio Governor) Kasich takes major credit for, since he chaired the House Budget Committee during the late 1990s. But Clinton didn't reference Kasich overtly.

"She knows she can't win the White House without winning Ohio – and she can't win Ohio against Gov. John Kasich," said John Weaver, Kasich's national campaign strategist, in the fundraising email.
And then of course, the obligatory, quasi-intimate, fund raiser w/ the wealthy - "Right here, folks! Get your picture taken with Hillary for only $2700!"

Later Thursday, Clinton attended an East Walnut Hills fundraiser hosted by Jennie Berliant and her husband, Allan, the CEO of Hyde Park's Best Express Foods and former member of the national finance committee for President Barack Obama's campaign. Attending the fundraiser cost $2,700 per person, the maximum per-person donation for the primary cycle, according to an invitation viewed by The Enquirer.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2015/09/10/hillary-clinton-columbus-trump/72004266/

[mhatrw]

17. Their idea of us "falling in line"

[TBF]

20. No more 3rd way BS - we want Bernie. Period. K&R nt

[Betty Karlson]

24. Gilibrand would be a good third best choice - after Sanders and O'Malley.

Why do the authors of these straw-clutching pieces always put the man before the woman? This is about qualifications - and Gilibrand is idiologically a lot closer to Sanders than Biden.

[magical thyme]

25. maybe Warren said, "no." Because replacing Warren on the theoritical ticket with a blue dog

isn't going to lure Bernie supporters to the dark side...

[peacebird]

26. Talk about tone deaf.... Love Biden, but don't want him as Pres

[fbc]

27. They are just trolling for signups