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Shift in the recent PPP poll relative to last month that no one is talking about (Original Post) leftcoastmountains Sep 2015 OP
Uh oh looks like the "Sanders cannot win minority votes" meme is in trouble! :) n/t. ZM90 Sep 2015 #1
So what will be the next meme? RoccoR5955 Sep 2015 #12
finally - thank you - Hiraeth Sep 2015 #2
Bernie Sanders’ “Racial Justice Platform” Wins Praise From Black Lives Matter merrily Sep 2015 #3
I am really puzzled by the assumption of some that the supporters of any candidate would switch djean111 Sep 2015 #4
I think it just creates enthusiasm leftcoastmountains Sep 2015 #6
+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #13
That's it, exactly. silverweb Sep 2015 #15
It's odd that... HerbChestnut Sep 2015 #5
I know several people (not AA) who went from unfavorable to unsure as they got to know him. ieoeja Sep 2015 #17
Where is the freaking poll? hootinholler Sep 2015 #7
Here RichVRichV Sep 2015 #11
I wish it were more people polled - here is the image Hiraeth Sep 2015 #19
Thanks for this! xynthee Sep 2015 #8
Yes! Precisely the info I was looking for and hoping for. Old Crow Sep 2015 #9
But I read *somewhere* that we supporters are all angry, former middle class (now poor) white men. PotatoChip Sep 2015 #10
Its just one poll, blah blah blah progree Sep 2015 #14
Everywhere I look I see more and more Bernie 2016 campaign signs. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #16
good find! jkbRN Sep 2015 #18
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. I am really puzzled by the assumption of some that the supporters of any candidate would switch
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 02:32 PM
Sep 2015

support based on polls, and not on the issues. Like the issues are irrelevant or something. Maybe they are, for some.

leftcoastmountains

(2,968 posts)
6. I think it just creates enthusiasm
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 02:41 PM
Sep 2015

Volunteers become more energized to work. It's like that article from the NY Times that's been posted several times here
said the enthusiasm creates more enthusiasm.It has a snowball effect or herd effect if you will.
It might prompt the crowd that says only HRC can win to possibly reconsider.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
15. That's it, exactly.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 04:56 PM
Sep 2015

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]And welcome to DU!


[font color="purple" face="Verdana"]Go, Bernie!


 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
5. It's odd that...
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 02:34 PM
Sep 2015

His 'Not Sure' percentage among African Americans actually increased from July. You'd think that an inversion of likeability, or even time itself, would signal an increase in exposure. There's a lot of things in that poll that just seem a little odd. I mentioned in a GDP thread that 61% of Clinton supporters aren't sure who'd be their second choice (Bernie gets 30% there). Also, Bernie only received 2% (2!!) of the 'Somewhat Conservative' vote, whereas he received 12% of the 'Very Conservative' vote. Go figure...

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
17. I know several people (not AA) who went from unfavorable to unsure as they got to know him.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 05:00 PM
Sep 2015

Unfavorable was their first instinct. "Oh, he's a socialist. Fuck him then."

Then as they got to know his positions they liked what they heard and switched to unsure. Actually, what would be odd is going from unfavorable directly to favorable. You would expect an unsure point somewhere in the middle of it.


As for African-Americans a lot of them operate under the assumption that any White person they do not know is racist. Sadly that is not just reasonable, it is a necessary survival mechanism in this country.


PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
10. But I read *somewhere* that we supporters are all angry, former middle class (now poor) white men.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 04:11 PM
Sep 2015

This just can't be right!1!!



ETA: I just noticed that this poll is about 'favorability' vs 'unfavorability' rather than 'supporters' per se... But I'll still let my post stand because that kind of speculation just plain cracks me up! Plus, who is to say that all those 'favorables' and 'don't knows' won't soon translate to actual support? I'm betting most will if they haven't already.

progree

(10,909 posts)
14. Its just one poll, blah blah blah
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 04:30 PM
Sep 2015

Last edited Tue Sep 1, 2015, 05:24 PM - Edit history (3)

Amongst African Americans primary voters, Bernie's favorability / unfavorability ratings:
[font face = courier]
July 20-21 Favorable: 21%, Unfavorable: 40%
Aug. 23-30 Favorable: 38%, Unfavorable: 19%
`Change ` Favorable: +17%, Unfavorable: -21%[/font]

Probably all within the margin of error and all that, bad sampling, maybe only called landlines, PPP is infested with Bernistas, polls in August have historically been unreliable, the summer's almost over and people are depressed and not thinking straight, the numbers are not seasonally adjusted nor inflation-adjusted, or something or all of the above I bet

Besides they never called me or anybody I know, so do we know for sure that this is a real poll? I doubt it. {1}

Anyway, the rate of change of Bernie's favorability and unfavorability is just a fraction of one percent a day, barely more than half a percent a day. The primaries are just around the corner, too little time for Bernie to catch up at this slow-poke rate.



(Ooops, just noticed I'm in the Bernie Sanders Group. )

--Footnotes: --
{1} Some idiot actually used this line on me in a message board argument, I kid you not.

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