Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumThis is the best explanation of why you should be supporting Bernie Sanders rather than Hillary
I apologize if this was already posted last week. It's new to me
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Im not someone whos followed Ed Schultz too extensively, but I came across this video of some commentary he recently made on his radio show (his MSNBC show has since been cancelled), and it was probably the best summation of why Democrats should be throwing their weight behind Bernie Sanders rather then Hillary.
Its not a commentary about political practicality, its about supporting a new kind of politician that flies in the face of the Establishment.
Citing a recent poll that shows Sanders leading Hillary in New Hampshire, Schultz started out by saying that there is a fight for the heart and soul of the Democratic soul in this country and its not about personality its about the issues.
When you ask Bernie Sanders about [the Keystone pipeline], you get an answer. When you ask Bernie Sanders a question about the Trans Pacific Partnership you get an answer. When you ask Bernie Sanders what he would do to the big banks on Wall Street, you get an answer. When you ask Bernie Sanders about, Do you think that the oil companies should pay their fair share and continue to get billions in dollars of subsidies from the United States Treasury? you get a direct answer.
Schultz scoffed at the Clinton folks of the world who slam him on social media for abandoning Hillary. Go right ahead, he taunted. I am more proud of what is unfolding in American politics right now than anything weve ever seen before.
Did the Black Lives Matter protest earlier this week in Seattle hurt Bernie Sanders? No. It gave him an opportunity to clarify his position exactly what hes going to do about institutional racism in this country.
Schultz was clear about his disappointment in Hillary Clinton:
I cant get no one can get a response from Hillary on Keystone, a response from Hillary on big oil, a response from Hillary on Wall Street
This is a guy whos revolutionizing American politics right now.
http://deadstate.org/this-is-the-best-explanation-of-why-you-should-be-supporting-bernie-sanders-rather-then-hillary/
840high
(17,196 posts)rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)He will not win for that reason, but I am a pessimist.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Stevepol
(4,234 posts)I'll have to be honest. I think the voting machines will rob him either in the primaries or in the general and somebody else who gets fewer votes will be proclaimed the winner, just as happened with Bush and Kerry in 04.
I wish I didn't feel this way, but I do. The vote in the US is counted on electronic voting machines and in only a few states is there anything resembling an attempt to VERIFY THE VOTE, that is, an audit, or even in many cases enough paper to have a fair audit or recount. In many states it's impossible to verify the vote. Until the US can VERIFY THE VOTE by comparing the actual paper with the cyber results on screen, we don't have a real democracy. I hope somebody is making Bernie aware of this and telling him what he should do about it.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)is for pessimist like you to not vote for him.
Thanks. I'm having some serious Ed withdrawal. I didn't think he still had his radio show.
I don't have MSNBC and that's the first time I ever listened to him. What happened to his TV show? I liked that video, and Ed so much that I went and looked for more, then I saw this one (where Bernie was one too)
and then I saw him addressing the cancellation of his show.
What did I miss?
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... it's just msnbc pulling it's Phil Donahue tricks again. Trying to look even more like FOX. More "establishment", if-you-please. I don't watch much msnbc at all since Ed left.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)I'll be looking for his podcasts.
merrily
(45,251 posts)pro-health care (and I don't mean health insurance, I mean health care), etc. He gave Bernie tons of free TV time, which Bernie REALLY needed.
Then all of a sudden, every week there was a story about how bad his ratings were. No one else's ratings on MSNBC or any other station mentioned in these stories, only Schultz's. And o and behold, he got fired for bad ratings.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)I got the pro-labor, pro-health care part immediately. You can't miss it. This is a shame but then again that's the MSM. I'm surprised someone that direct and pro-labor made it on at all. I'll try to keep up with his podcasts now. Thanks Merrily
merrily
(45,251 posts)malokvale77
(4,879 posts)I don't have cable so didn't see that.
Very telling. MSNBC evidently doesn't want the truth told.
Go Ed and go Bernie.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)TrumanTown
(15 posts)Here Is The Link To We Got Ed Podcast http://wegoted.com/
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)It's when you know that a good number of voters are not going to like your answer that you hem and haw and say tone deaf stuff.
NotHardly
(1,062 posts)Democrats historically are capable of killing off their chances by eating their own... I would remind you of Jimmy Carter and his second run, but I am not sure you would get the point.
Old Crow
(2,212 posts)I don't understand what you're trying to say, and I'm probably not the only one here scratching my head.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Apparently, the Democratic Party has soured on democratic primaries.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12776064
eridani
(51,907 posts)When did that happen?
merrily
(45,251 posts)Carter did not lose because of Kennedy's primary challenge. Far more likely: Carter was the subject of a primary challenge because Carter was going to lose the election. In addition, Kennedy may have been the only Democratic politician at that time who could have beaten Reagan because then, the Kennedys still had more charisma than Reagan--and more political savvy.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12778873
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12778872
Give democracy a chance. Who knows? You might actually like it.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)And such is the thinking of the Hillary supporters: that Hillary is entitled, much like a monarch, to wear the crown of the Democratic nominee of President, and it is so shameful that that we mere serfs would take aim at that, and threaten her God given right to the post; we are eating our own!
No! The nominee will be WHO WE SAY IT IS, through something called the PRIMARY PROCESS. It is not eating our own, it's democracy. This is how plutocrats get legitimacy, through attitudes like that, which calls the democratic process, "eating our own." But I am not sure you would get the point.
Besides, Teddy Kennedy would gad fared better in 1980 anyways. More incumbents, which Clinton is not, should be primaried. They should have to answer for their first term to the membership before getting our seal of approval; maybe we'd like a better nominee. Presidents shouldn't be entitled to it either.
PatrickforO
(14,593 posts)populists who fly in the face of the establishment. They ARE the establishment. As things heat up look for Chris Hayes and/or Rachel to be cancelled as well.
Comcast is willing to eat those losses to keep word from getting out.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)1. Bernie is supported by working Americans
2. Hillary is supported by SUPERpacs.
IMHO
Catherina
(35,568 posts)With great determination
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Waiting till the very last minute before Clinton has to openly answer some of the questions she's been so carefully avoiding.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)what a mess American politics is in. But, Bernie uplifts me. He's not just another politician trying to get rich in the politics business.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)Go Bernie!!
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)The country does not need Hillary Clinton right now. The only arguments I have heard from her supporters are
1. She's female
2. She's "more electable" than Sanders
3. She has "executive experience"
She is a Republican except for abortion rights and gay marriage (I think she's still in favor of gay marriage - she'll change back if the polls change). Enough. It's time to fight the right with everything we have - not promise to work with them, like Clinton has.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Go Bernie, go Ed!
fbc
(1,668 posts)Ed, update your intro music please.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
retrowire
(10,345 posts)"Hillary, would you like fries with that?"
Hillary: "Let me talk to my people, see what others answer, then I'll get back to you on that."
HappyPlace
(568 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I agree
It's a movement, but rather than use that (thinking of Harry Shearer saying, "And we all NEED ONE.. EVERY DAY!" , I see it as a paradigm shift.
Someone needed to lead it, and it turns out that Bernie Sanders is the one.