Any Bernie supporter who recced this thread should perhaps take a step back

[Luminous Animal]

and reflect. I want us to play smart politics. Evidence based politics. Issue based politics. We need to reject, 100% any distraction that originates from Republicans.

Here is the OP http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251495695

The source? A republican operative. Please please please do not let republican operatives lead us.

Yes. The evidence SEEMS to lead us to conclude that Hillary received and set classified info.

But the facts MAY lead us to conclude that the info sent and received was classified after the fact.

I am not a Hillary supporter. I am a Bernie supporter and a volunteer.

I want Bernie supporters to play smart politics.

One part of smart politics is that any Bernie supporter refrains from reccing a post that originates from a Republican operative.

[canuck eh]

1. even if it was started by a HRC supporter?

Trying to "stay ahead" - even if it's from a operative?

[Luminous Animal]

2. Everyone can claim to be someone on the internet.

Few of us have bonafides.

[beam me up scottie]

3. As soon as I saw who the author was I backed out in a hurry.

I won't give rw smears any attention.

Some HC supporters refuse to swift boat Bernie and I prefer to follow their lead instead of retaliating against the ones who do.

I have to live with myself after the primaries.

[Luminous Animal]

9. !00% yep. Agree. I will have to love with myself after the primaries.

[beam me up scottie]

15. I figure if the story has legs it'll be posted again with a legit source.

I'll wait and see, this scandal isn't going anywhere.

[sabrina 1]

20. I agree with you. Right Wing Sources such as Tucker Carlson eg

were introduced in a failed attempt to smear Sanders by a couple of Hillary supporters. Most people objected to the use of that source.

I agree with the majority, nothing that is written by political hacks especially from the right, should be given any credibility here regardless of who the candidate they are targeting happens to be.

This email thing is a distraction imo.

Donald Trump is a distraction.

All being pushed to distract from the Issues that the American people care about.

Even if the OP of that thread is a Hillary supporter, just linking to it helps spread it around.

I didn't see it but would not have rec'd it anyhow.

[LuvNewcastle]

4. People give recs for different reasons.

Sometimes I give a rec because I want the article to be seen. I might not agree with what the article says, but I could think it needs exposure. I rec other posts because I like what they say. I didn't rec it, but some of the recs might be from people who want the article to be seen.

[Cosmic Kitten]

5. Pfft. thanks for the "advice"

Because "smart politics" is doing what you say?

So when did you get elected Mayor of opinion town?

Rec'ing is no big deal.
don't be mad, Bro!

[Luminous Animal]

8. Smart politics is taking a step back and not reccing an OP sourced from a Republican operative.

I AM THE MAYOR OF OPINION TOWN BOW DOWN BEFORE ME!!!!

Reccing a post from a republican operative is totally the most intelligent thing a democrat can do.

[Cosmic Kitten]

10. do not fear truth; nor attack the messenger

If Hillary sufferers yet another self-inflicted wound
is it not providence for the nation?


Level, square, and rule?

[Luminous Animal]

12. I reject any "truth" that originates from Republicans. And I refuse to be their tool

I want a clean campaign by Bernie's standards.

[Zorra]

6. +1. Marc Thiessen was Bush's speechwriter. nt

[onecaliberal]

7. I'm a Bernie supporter. Didn't rec that thread.

I think this is a non scandal. If they want to go through private servers how about we see Colin Powell's email from the 9-11 time. And run up to the Iraq war. That's what I want to see. He admitted using the same thing and said everyone did.
There are Plenty of legit policy I am not a fan of, don't need to worry about fake republican made up shit.

[artislife]

14. I think the drip drip drip

of this thing is what will do damage. It adds to other drips.

Is it real or not, I cannot say, probably not. But she was silly not to use the official server. I mean, come on. She knows what she does is under constant scrutiny and even if she thinks she can handle everything, why give them ammo? It is kind of cavalier.


On topic, I didn't rec.

I don't have tv and I read from the internet. I really have very little idea who writes what and what isn't kosher. I just read things and weigh it in my own mind. It is when I start to see patterns forming that I start to pay attention. I remember almost all of Hillary's speeches from 2008. This go around, I will pass. I know her and she does not add up to someone I want to elect.
Full stop.---until the GE, in case there are any H supporters reading this closed group thread.

I will read and watch from Bernie supporters or those who seem to be nonH supporters.

[RichVRichV]

16. I don't know why anyone can claim to "worry" about Bernie come the generals

as if he couldn't survive the Republican onslaught. They pick the dumbest most pointless things that no one cares about to turn into scandals while ignoring anything that could be legitimately used against them.

They could have gone after Obama for drone assassinations, crossing allies borders to attack enemy groups without their permissions, NSA spying, attacks on whistle blowers, support for the TPA. No! Instead they go after birth certificates and Benghazi.

Birthers aside, Benghazi has to be the case study in ridiculous scandals just by it's shear scope. They act as if it's the most egregious national security breakdown ever, ignoring 9/11 under Bush. They act as if it's some rare and unimaginable act, ignoring all the embassies attacked and lives lost in them under Bush. They completely ignore their own culpability in the tragedy when they slashed embassy security budgets. And they have spent years pushing this "scandal" when it was obvious from the beginning it would go no where.

And these are supposed to be the people we have to fear will sweep Bernie out with their attack ads?!

[aspirant]

11. So what do we do with Sanders Repubs (Like Reagan Dems)

if they present a opinion or factual piece?

[Luminous Animal]

13. Thiessen is not a Sanders Republican. He is not humping for Sanders.

If you ever meet a republican that is leaning Bernie, PM me and I will help you through the conversation.

[TM99]

17. Smart politics to you is team sports politics.

If a Republican says anything, even if factually correct, about a Democrat it is bad. If a Democrat says anything, even if factually correct, about a Republican it is bad.

I don't play such games.

The problem here is NOT the Republican operative.

The problem here is that Hillary Clinton did a stupid, unethical, and potentially illegal act with regards to the mail server in question.

The Clintons have been known for these types of things since the Arkansas days.

You will not get what you want from me, because I want this shit aired as soon as possible. Why? Because if the Clinton machine with their money, surrogates, and dirty Rovian tricks take down Sanders in the primary, shit like this will lose her the general. Better for it to be damaging now so that Sanders or frankly O'Malley even can win the primary.

[LiberalElite]

18. I didn't even click on it the first time eom

[TBF]

19. I didn't even see that thread -

but I'm not going to play party games either, no matter who is leading the charge.

Last night I chatted with someone about that in one of the threads. She places democratic party loyalty above all else (imo). To me both parties have largely become marketing campaigns for respective billionaires.

I won't be part of that. As I told her - I took an online quiz and my agreement with the candidates are as follows: 98% agreement with Bernie on issues, 74% Hillary, 52% Jeb, 0% Ted Cruz (that last one is just funny - and true).

I am advocating, donating, and voting based on that.

Party? Pfft. I think I might feel differently if someone like Ted Kennedy were still alive and leading. But the party today has sold us out too many times. To win me back I want to see support for everyday Americans - not the hedge funds.