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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 11:14 PM Aug 2015

Here’s why Bernie Sanders plans to speak at Liberty University next month

(snip)
“It goes without saying that my views on many issues -- women’s rights, gay rights, education and many other issues -- are very different from the opinions of some in the Liberty University community,” Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist who is Jewish, said Wednesday night, in comments relayed by a spokesman.

But Sanders said he would like to see if “we can reach consensus regarding the grotesque level of income and wealth inequality in our country, about the collapse of the middle class, about the high level of childhood poverty, about climate change and other issues.”

Sanders, who has emerged as the leading alternative to Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democratic nomination, said he accepted the university’s invitation to speak Sept. 14. The university, which was founded by the late Rev. Jerry Falwell, holds convocations three times a week, which it bills as “North America’s largest weekly gathering of Christian students.”

(snip)
“It is very easy for a candidate to speak to people who hold the same views,” Sanders said. “It’s harder but important to reach out to others who look at the world differently. I look forward to meeting with the students and faculty of Liberty University.”

more at link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/05/heres-why-bernie-sanders-plans-to-speak-at-liberty-university-next-month/

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Here’s why Bernie Sanders plans to speak at Liberty University next month (Original Post) cal04 Aug 2015 OP
I can't wait to see how they'll spin this in GD P. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #1
And I wonder how the media will cover it. progressoid Aug 2015 #4
My guess is they'll try to work Israel into the headline. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #5
Chris Matthews TrumanTown Aug 2015 #8
LoL! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #9
LOL! merrily Aug 2015 #13
I wish he would tell him that udbcrzy2 Aug 2015 #39
He said something similar when he attended an event the firefighters' union. merrily Aug 2015 #14
Lol, what happened to the old 'reality based, PRAGMATISM' when Bernie sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #18
I was going to type that pragmatism is about money and we need to be merrily Aug 2015 #20
And the people who claim he won't be able to reach across the aisle and work with the GOP beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #31
I know of about 4 of them that are going to get right on this when he does Autumn Aug 2015 #16
Let the pearl clutching begin! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #30
Wow, we must be psychic! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #40
The good senator from Vermont never ceases to amaze. Zorra Aug 2015 #2
Our guy sees the big picture. So pleased with him. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #3
This is *incredible.* Most politicians seem to only attend "rallies" rather than... Beartracks Aug 2015 #6
A Democrat with a spine?? Well it's about time. Fearless Aug 2015 #7
+1 appalachiablue Aug 2015 #17
I've never believed it was about spine or bravery or fear or anything of the kind. merrily Aug 2015 #23
That takes courage. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #10
I'm afraid Bernie has given the students and faculty of Liberty University too much credit. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #11
Maybe. But telling Americans things they have not heard from politicians merrily Aug 2015 #15
I think he will probably test speaking on "Obamatrade" there to measure their response... cascadiance Aug 2015 #24
I hope they embrace Bernie and become supporters. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #25
Polls show that most Americans agree with him on the issues. merrily Aug 2015 #33
I hope it turns out for the best, of course. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #26
I know you do. merrily Aug 2015 #32
Well.... merrily Aug 2015 #22
That's MHO as well Doctor_J Aug 2015 #29
K&R for Bernie's outreach. Bet he wins over many of the students. Scuba Aug 2015 #12
If he does, I'm sure some will be darkly remarking that it proves Bernie appeals winter is coming Aug 2015 #19
While others are concerned about his alleged inability to work across the aisle merrily Aug 2015 #21
Still creepy IMO Doctor_J Aug 2015 #27
Damn, I thought he was going to swerve right and denounce Planned Parenthood! arcane1 Aug 2015 #28
DU without GDP is very nice and nearly sane. merrily Aug 2015 #34
You know, as much as I hate hiding and ignoring, I warm more to it every day arcane1 Aug 2015 #35
I had to take everyone off ignore yesterday to figure out who on my ignore list was merrily Aug 2015 #37
+1000 n2doc Aug 2015 #36
I'm concerned aspirant Aug 2015 #38

TrumanTown

(15 posts)
8. Chris Matthews
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 01:18 AM
Aug 2015

Tweety Will Chase Bernie Down There And Ask Him What Is The Difference Between A Democrat And A Socialist - Bernie Will Turn Around And Say "A Real Democrat Is A Democratic Socialist Like FDR Not Like Corporate Clintons That Is The Difference" Tweety Will Then Get A Tinkle Down His Leg!!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
14. He said something similar when he attended an event the firefighters' union.
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 08:36 AM
Aug 2015

Last edited Thu Aug 6, 2015, 09:08 AM - Edit history (1)

hosted for politicians. Said something like, "Maybe we can't agree on XYZ (which included abortion), but maybe we can agree on ABC. It was met with misquoting him, many wtfs and so on.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125557694

The firefighters were there to hear about union issues, safety issues, the possibility of federal funding via the Homeland Security budget, etc. However, Bernie and only Bernie, was expected to try to make sure the members of the firefighters union became pro-abortion after one speech from him at the beginning of his cafmpaign.

Meanwhile, the fact that Hillary didn't even show up, went without mention, as did the fact that neither O'Malley, Webb nor any other politician present mentioned abortion or any other social issue. In fact, O'Malley is being lauded on the same thread.

Now you know.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
18. Lol, what happened to the old 'reality based, PRAGMATISM' when Bernie
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 12:04 PM
Aug 2015

does something rational, like talking to ALL demographics all of whom, or most, do vote and why not get a few of those votes for a candidate for the Dem nomination?

Lol, they are funny. Pragmatism, OUT THE WINDOW!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
20. I was going to type that pragmatism is about money and we need to be
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 03:09 PM
Aug 2015

absolute on social issues. However, only a day ago, I did an OP about equal rights for gays; and there was a lot of "pragmatism" (or something) around that, too. But, when Bernie just honestly says, we may not agree about certain things, but I know we can probably agree about others, that's unforgivable.

It isn't even about double standards anymore. You have to be a shapeshifter to keep up.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
31. And the people who claim he won't be able to reach across the aisle and work with the GOP
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 05:23 PM
Aug 2015

are going to do an about face and turn this into a sign that he'll capitulate.

Typical.

Autumn

(45,101 posts)
16. I know of about 4 of them that are going to get right on this when he does
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 09:45 AM
Aug 2015
And I'm going to buy stock in smelling salts.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
40. Wow, we must be psychic!
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 06:36 AM
Aug 2015

They were getting the vapours all over GD P just over the announcement.



I hope you bought that stock yesterday.

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
6. This is *incredible.* Most politicians seem to only attend "rallies" rather than...
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 12:46 AM
Aug 2015

... dive into "enemy" territory seeking common ground.

Bernie amazes.

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merrily

(45,251 posts)
23. I've never believed it was about spine or bravery or fear or anything of the kind.
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 03:25 PM
Aug 2015

Or smarts or stupidity.

It's about trying to keep the Democratic base while pursuing personal ambition and personal benefit.

Republicans always said, "Hey, we like the guys with the money and privatizing and we hate taxes and government. That's who we are." So, they pursue that agenda and seem strong and free of disconnects.

Democrats want to pursue that agenda, but have always said, "Hey, we're for the little guy and gal and think government and social safety nets should be there for them, even if it means bigger government and a bit more taxes on everyone who can afford it."

So, now it's "Aw, geez, the stupid assholes across the aisle thwarted us yet again. If you're as outraged about that as we are, send us a donation. Quick!"

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
11. I'm afraid Bernie has given the students and faculty of Liberty University too much credit.
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 07:14 AM
Aug 2015

Most of these people have been thoroughly indoctrinated and are incapable of thinking outside their tiny box (bubble).

merrily

(45,251 posts)
15. Maybe. But telling Americans things they have not heard from politicians
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 08:39 AM
Aug 2015

about domestic fiscal policies since FDR passed can't hurt.

That is exactly why I donate to Bernie. So Americans can hear certain truths that politicians, including many current Democratic politicians, find highly inconvenient.

On the issues that I suspect he will stress at Liberty U, Bernie is to the right of Frankie Two Sticks AND the big JC. If he goes armed with some New Testament Bible verses, what can they say? Hope he does.

The fact that they are even open to hearing from a pro-abortion, candidly non-religious, Jewish politician alone is a good sign, IMO.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
24. I think he will probably test speaking on "Obamatrade" there to measure their response...
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 04:32 PM
Aug 2015

If there are many there with concerns like this guy had in this right wing article on "Obamatrade" (TPP), there are many ways then to appeal to even the Republican base where many of them are vulnerable too for perhaps being too much of a corporate sellout that would have them support someone like Bernie where they might not support Hillary who likely has similar stances on TPP that many Republicans (and their candidates) do.

http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/3329/Democrats-And-GOP-Rebels-Save-The-Day-On-Obamatrade.aspx

I'm guessing that in addition to TPP, there are other more populist stances on issues that he might find some interest in that corporate Democrats have been ignoring too.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
25. I hope they embrace Bernie and become supporters.
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 05:02 PM
Aug 2015

However, those people have a history of voting against their own best interests. [URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

I hope Bernie can find some traction with them.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
33. Polls show that most Americans agree with him on the issues.
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 05:33 PM
Aug 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12777036

So, he should do fine, unless they decide in advance to be asshats, which is a possiblity.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
22. Well....
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 03:18 PM
Aug 2015
I used to say to our audiences: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"



I, Candidate for Governor: And How I Got Licked (1935), ISBN 0-520-08198-6; repr. University of California Press, 1994, p. 109.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
19. If he does, I'm sure some will be darkly remarking that it proves Bernie appeals
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 01:07 PM
Aug 2015

to conservates, and that concerns them.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
21. While others are concerned about his alleged inability to work across the aisle
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 03:16 PM
Aug 2015

Which is also false.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128027637

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128030707

Nonetheless, I greatly appreciate their sincere concern about all Bernie's alleged shortcomings.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
28. Damn, I thought he was going to swerve right and denounce Planned Parenthood!
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 05:05 PM
Aug 2015

Based on the absurdities I've seen on DU today!

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
35. You know, as much as I hate hiding and ignoring, I warm more to it every day
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 05:42 PM
Aug 2015

This might just be the week!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
37. I had to take everyone off ignore yesterday to figure out who on my ignore list was
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 06:46 PM
Aug 2015

replying to my OP in the Bernie Group. I was too lazy to put everyone back on. I've already begun adding back, though.

I used to pride myself that I had never put anyone on ignore. Not anymore! Pride is not a good trait, anyway.

Truth is, some posters are dead boring and never post anything of value.



aspirant

(3,533 posts)
38. I'm concerned
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 07:02 PM
Aug 2015

about the students potential behavior and what is the Plan B this time?

We must have a policy position that allows Bernie to come away on higher ground.

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