Update: Hillary and Alberta Tar Sands.

[Cleita]

Last edited Mon Jul 27, 2015, 07:25 PM - Edit history (1)

So much for Hillary's big speech about solar energy. Ed Schultz covering for the Reverend Al, who was late to his show, had Jane Kleeb on about this. Jane says Hillary has a relationship and ties to Trans Canada. So she will be in favor of the Keystone Pipeline. Also, I have a concern locally in my community, Union Pacific is trying to build a railroad spur to bring oil bomb trains with Alberta tar sands through our towns to the Phillips Conoco refinery in Nipomo on the Central Coast of California. Locally, activists are fighting it because of the danger to schools on the route, but also there would be great ecological disasters to our coast where whales were playing out in the surf today and our monarch butterfly preserve that is right along the rail line. I don't have a link as this is fresh news, but I'm sure there will be video or a transcript posted in the next twenty four hours.

If we ever needed Bernie to beat Hillary, this is reason #1 on my list.

Here's some past articles about Hillary's ties to Canadian oil.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clintons-transcanada-pipeline-connection-is-just-part-of-the-story/

http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2011/10/emails-state-department-transcanada-elliot

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/31/hillary-clinton-speeches-keystone_n_7463108.htm

So much on Google and too much to post, but here's the link to the Google page:

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Trans+Canada's+relationship+with+Hillary+Clinton&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

[malokvale77]

1. Please keep us updated on this.

I have had the uneasy feeling that we would be so concentrated on stopping Keystone XL that we would let other, just as dangerous, routes slip through.

[Cleita]

3. I'm trying but I don't have any real reporter skills with all the crazy stuff that's happening

around this. Another DUer is going to the City council and other govt. body meetings concerning this. I try to go to some of them. There is an elusive organization that designates themselves as for the RR but we can't seem to figure out who they are because they want volunteers to shill for the RR but you have to leave a message on a cell phone to get to them. The problem is that they are secretive and not open to scrutiny. They claim it's about jobs but it's not true. There wouldn't be any jobs affected. There would be some construction jobs that would end when the spur is completed. It's just sneaky stuff all around and very dangerous for our communities.

[malokvale77]

6. Your efforts are much appreciated.

I've been trying to get info on the southern leg of the XL pipeline.

This thing is snaking through East Texas not far from my daughter's property.

I don't think Keystone is dead (it will just be renamed, tied up in a pretty bow and shoved down our collective asses).

One of many reasons I will never trust the Clinton wing of the Democratic Party.

[Cleita]

7. It's really us up against a very formidable foe the global oil industry.

The best thing to do is to get everyone aware of this and why it's not a good deal. They are trying to present this to the politically naive as a good deal for jobs. It's not when you look in the weeds. It's mostly lies.

[malokvale77]

10. It is very frustrating.

Their are more job opportunities in the renewable energy field. It is a shame that as a collective we can embrace the digital age but can't see past fossil fuel.

It is ludicrous to say the least.

[RufusTFirefly]

2. It may be reason #1 on the list, but...

... as far as I'm concerned, it's a very long list.

[Cleita]

4. Very long. eom

[marym625]

5. and solar is cheap

Not like wind and the old solar plants. So this big thing is really not much

[RoccoR5955]

8. This proves that Mrs. Clinton does not care one bit about the environment.

These tar sands are the worst. They are destroying the boreal forest to get to this crap.
FYI- These boreal forests are the Earth's "lungs." Without these trees, there is less absorption of carbon dioxide, and less production of oxygen.

[Cleita]

9. Have you seen the photos in Alberta? It looks like a painter's vision of the landscape of Hell. eom

[zentrum]

11. Do you have a link?

[Cleita]

14. Here.

Knock yourself out.

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Alberta+tar+sands+photos&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ved=0CBQQsARqFQoTCOf5g-HS_MYCFUIxiAodSy0IJw&tbm=isch

[zentrum]

31. Geeze.

Earth rape.

Have been for Bernie from day one—as have all the members of my family—especially the women.

[Autumn]

15. Google images for tar sands Alberta Canada.

That's some clean energy there alright.

[Plucketeer]

12. I'm still stinging from the last time we got lied to

If we let it happen again, we got no one but ourselves to point a finger at.

[Zorra]

13. Thank you. nt

[passiveporcupine]

16. I'm with you on this

I have a concern locally in my community, Union Pacific is trying to build a railroad spur to bring oil bomb trains with Alberta tar sands through our towns to the Phillips Conoco refinery in Nipomo on the Central Coast of California.

We are constantly fighting to keep coal and oil from being transported by train through the Columbia River Gorge. It seems to be a never ending battle. It's frustrating and damned scary.

[Cleita]

18. OMG and it's such a beautiful place too.

When my husband was alive, we made a point every spring of traveling through there to look at the waterfalls.

[passiveporcupine]

20. It is truly beautiful here

And now we are fighting a Nestle's water bottling plant start up in Cascade Locks, while this whole area is suffering from drought.

I really don't understand why some politicians do what they do.

[Cleita]

23. I really don't think any company should have any claim on water.

If they succeed in getting the plant in, force your politicians to sell the water to Nestle at market price. This is the way it should be. Water is part of the commons and if it's going to be sold, then the money belongs to all of the people in that place. It's time to take our resources back.

[passiveporcupine]

26. I haven't much say as I don't live in Cascade Locks, but

they are a town of under 1200 people and they are desperately in need of jobs. So, I think this is a done deal already. It just makes me sick.

[Cleita]

28. I know. It's one of the reasons the lumber companies get away with what they do in the NW because

people look the other way on account of the jobs they provide, usually, dangerous jobs that IMHO don't pay that well.

[asiliveandbreathe]

17. Another link - It's a new day in Alberta with the election of the

New Democratic Party - oops! - From May 7th, 2015

http://www.examiner.com/article/keystone-xl-pipeline-may-become-a-pipe-dream-under-new-canadian-politics..

[Cleita]

19. It looks like they took the page down. eom

[asiliveandbreathe]

22. Sorry - maybe the hattip 'cause and affect..second try

http://www.examiner.com/article/keystone-xl-pipeline-may-become-a-pipe-dream-under-new-canadian-politics

[Cleita]

24. Okay this link works. I'll read it now.

[asiliveandbreathe]

21. second try

http://www.examiner.com/article/keystone-xl-pipeline-may-become-a-pipe-dream-under-new-canadian-politics

[Cleita]

27. Hope the Canadians can take this disaster down.

I don't know how much shutting down the tar sands will affect your economy, but it looks like it should be done. I hope we follow suit and start closing down all oil operations here in the US too. I really don't think we need fossil fuel anymore. We seem to have enough technology to embrace alternate and renewable energy from here on out.

[Babel_17]

25. New link works

http://www.examiner.com/article/keystone-xl-pipeline-may-become-a-pipe-dream-under-new-canadian-politics

It’s a new day in Canadian politics. This week oil rich province of Alberta, Canada, took on a new government, and a country by surprise. The traditionally Conservative Tory government in Canada’s wealthiest province has been taken over by the New Democratic Party. With a new provincial premier in the works, this is casting some doubt on the future of Alberta’s Keystone XL pipeline. The Keystone Xl pipeline is a political buzz word for two countries, and has been a heated discussion topic for many years now. The Guardian reported May 6 that with a new government in Alberta, the heated Keystone XL pipeline discussions may die down to a whisper. As reported by The Guardian May 6, new NDP leader for Alberta isn't as interested in pipeline politics as the rest of the political world. As such, the Keystone XL may become just another pipe dream.

In Canada’s wealthiest and oil heavy province of Alberta, the Conservative government has held the biggest seat in the land since the days of President Nixon. Alberta, being pro-oil and pro-wealth, has long supported the Keystone XL project. But those years of support may fade to black if the new NDP leadership takes over. The NDP is historically against the Keystone XL pipeline.

This could mean, no matter how loud or how powerful or how wealthy American political supporters will be on the topic, it could all be just a pipeline pipe dream. The Guardian reported yesterday that the NDP, the New Democratic Party, swept a history making victory over Alberta’s Tory government. It’s being considered a blow to Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s mission to green light the pipeline, a pipeline that would transport oil bitumen from the tar sands of Alberta to the world market.

Click the link above for more.

[passiveporcupine]

29. One can only hope

[Doctor_J]

30. there are just too many of these things for me to support Mrs Clinton

I wish she would stop the lying and the hiding and run an honest campaign.