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sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 11:21 AM Jul 2015

Bernie: 'my opponents will outspend us BUT WE ARE GOING TO WIN THIS ELECTION'



I don't think his opponents have grasped it yet, but THAT very thing, the Money in Politics, the negative campaigning bought and paid for by Corporate $$ is going to be one of the biggest issues in this campaign!

Let them keep spending money on personal attacks, avoiding talking about issues, while they focus on being negative.

Clearly it is having no impact on the PEOPLE who are a lot more informed today than they were just a decade ago.

Soon Bernie will be able to point to some of these attacks and USE them as an example of the corrosive effects of money in our electoral system.

I hope they are not spending TOO MUCH money on these negative attacks, as Bernie just keeps focusing on the REAL ISSUES:



Ssshhh Bernie. They don't WANT YOU to talk about these economic inequality issues for women and minorities.

They have a nice little system going where they pay less and make more so long as no one pays attention to it.

And THAT is why they are attempting to make an issue of his insistence on shining a light on this most important issue.
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Bernie: 'my opponents will outspend us BUT WE ARE GOING TO WIN THIS ELECTION' (Original Post) sabrina 1 Jul 2015 OP
It will also get bloody Babel_17 Jul 2015 #1
It already has. It's obvious that their 'talking point' no doubt paid for with loads of money sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #2
They are brilliant people but they live in a bubble Babel_17 Jul 2015 #3
Good post and interesting quotes. Just one disagreement, I do not believe they sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #4
Thanks, and I like what you posted. Regarding smart people: ... Babel_17 Jul 2015 #5
Kickin this! raouldukelives Jul 2015 #6

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
1. It will also get bloody
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 03:28 PM
Jul 2015

Money fights for its money with a white hot rage. They'll recruit whatever armies they can hire, and they'll point them at Sanders. But I think the Sanders campaign will deflect all the spurious attacks they can muster.

The scales are falling off people eyes and they're seeing the condition of our nation for what it is. The inescapable truth of which groups have been looting and destroying our country can't be hidden away by any rhetorical sleight of hand.

People are seeing clearly the choice they have with Sanders, and they're coming out for him in an unstoppable wave that will keep rising and put Sanders into office as President of the United States.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
2. It already has. It's obvious that their 'talking point' no doubt paid for with loads of money
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 08:49 PM
Jul 2015

is to try to attack Bernie on race. They can't, they know that, they know as soon as the country gets to know him, it will be too late to try that.

So they are harping on something that is meaningless right now, hoping to create an impression, a false impression. They have obviously decided that this is their most important 'tactic'. They must have invested a lot of money to get it.

But it isn't working, because they have underestimated the people's ability to recognize the truth and to see through these now old and familiar and despicable tactics.

What is happening now is that people are noticing something. They are not talking up Hillary's record on this subject. People might not have wondered if they had not tried to make it an issue for Bernie.

And she has no real record on this most important subject.

Reading through some minority blogs I see comments slamming her, stating that all she wants are 'our votes'. Some of the language is quite colorful.

Hillary has a problem. And THEY made it happen in their zeal to try to distort the record of one of the most honest candidates this country has ever had.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
3. They are brilliant people but they live in a bubble
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 09:29 PM
Jul 2015

That deer caught in a headlights look of Senator McCaskill, when given a reality check regarding the Sanders campaign, could become emblematic for the establishment that is trying to undermine the uprising that is supporting Sanders.

"What, tried and true smear techniques don't work, even when vigorously applied, and at great expense? What sorcery is this?"

I just googled Arthur C. Clarke's famous quote about technology and magic. It's incorporated as the third of his three "laws". I think all three of them apply to the Sanders campaign.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws

1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic


The Sanders campaign is a phenomenon that can't be explained by the establishment's political operatives. It's like magic to them.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
- Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio


Yeah, that too.

So the Sanders campaign was said to be impossible, they were wrong.

"The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible." It's been a joy to see this campaign doing that, and succeeding. Those who've doubled down and said the campaign would lose steam were wrong. They doubled down again, and were wrong. Now they are out of credibility, and they need their candidate to confront the movement to elect Sanders, head on.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
4. Good post and interesting quotes. Just one disagreement, I do not believe they
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 09:47 PM
Jul 2015

are very smart people. I believe they are very limited 'thinkers'. If they were brilliant, they would be aknowledging that Bernie is just a better candidate. Hillary has so many bad decisions in her political history, to try to explain, while Bernie's record is almost perfect.

Brilliant people do not need emulate others, and their emulationg of one the most most vile political operatives to try to turn truth into fiction, demonstrates to me that they are not very bright at all. They are losing, Bernie's numbers keep rising, no matter what they try.

A relatively smart person would realize that to continue with these tactics is just plain stupid but they don't seem to get it.

Which is fine by me! Lol!

Thanks for a very interesting post which I agree with, except for that which I have already explained.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
5. Thanks, and I like what you posted. Regarding smart people: ...
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 10:26 PM
Jul 2015

Thanks, and I like what you posted. Regarding smart people: We find them everywhere, and often on bitterly opposing sides. Intelligent choice isn't the sole determiner of where smart people park themselves.

I sort of remember lots of pieces of the Viet Nam war. I remember great people, truly our best and brightest, laying out the rationale for fighting the Communist regime of North Viet Nam. They made a lot of sense at the time. For a while.

I won't rehash any of that, I just note that intelligence doesn't put you on a Mount Olympus and render your vision always clear and accurate. Brilliant pundits base their thinking on premises. If the premise is false, it all falls apart.

Way too many of our most trusted and respected journalists are filtering their world view through the plexiglass floor of their privileged lives. They don't see the floor that keeps them safe from the economic tragedies visited on the rest of us by their acquaintances, the politicians and operatives they should be reporting on.

Establishment politicians hire similar types of people as these. They're very smart, and they can see, but what they see is filtered through the plexiglass that keeps them at a safe distance from the struggle on the ground.

I'm using hyperbole here, I know most of these elites work hard and have their struggles. Many have worked up the ranks and know the life we lead. But I do think that they can spend too much time in the world of privilege, and it's all too easy to forget what's happening here in the world of primary and caucus voters.

We'll see what happens now that it's becoming time for all major candidates to get out there and mix it up with the electorate and the reporters. I predict that many aren't prepared for the intensity that awaits them.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
6. Kickin this!
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 08:29 AM
Jul 2015

Bernie just needs more face time with America. It is coming. The wave is undeniable.

There are those that stand with Wall St and those that stand with Main St.

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