Dan Abrams: Clinton has been lying to you

[EdwardBernays]

"No, her self-serving email set-up was not “allowed” under the State Department’s rules. No, she was not “permitted” to use a personal email system exclusively as she did. No, what she did was hardly just a matter of her “personal convenience.” No, there is no evidence that any State Department attorney (other than perhaps Secretary Clinton herself) ever gave “legal approval” to any part of her special email system. No, everything she did was not “fully above board” or in compliance with the “letter and spirit of the rules,” far from it. Yes, she was indeed required by the FRA to maintain all official e-mails in an official system for proper review, delineation, and retention upon her departure. Yes, her private server equipment was in fact the subject of multiple attempted intrusion attempts (i.e., hacks), including by foreign nations. The list goes on and on. (Note that this does not even include Ms. Clinton’s many serious “misstatements” about her handling of classified or potentially classified information.)

Now, even the general public is left with the unavoidable conclusion that Ms. Clinton either is ignorant of the law (which too many people know is not so) or else feels blithely untethered to reality in a way that necessarily serves her secretive interests regardless of any truth — the technical legal term for which is “pathological lying,” or perhaps merely “psychosis.” Not a pretty picture for a voter of any stripe at any stage of the electoral process."

And then there's this bit where he says's she's going to be indicted:

"It also is especially so given that the ongoing investigation of Ms. Clinton’s misconduct is being conducted by the FBI, under the leadership of FBI Director James Comey. Those of us who worked under him when he was the deputy attorney general during the George W. Bush Administration know him to be an exceptional man of utmost integrity, one who can be counted on to recommend a criminal prosecution when the facts and the law of a case warrant it, regardless of political circumstances. Given that the facts and law are so clear in Ms. Clinton’s case, it is difficult to imagine her not being indicted, unless Jim Comey’s expected recommendation for that is abruptly overruled at “Main Justice” (i.e., by Criminal Division Assistant Attorney General Leslie Caldwell, by Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, or by Attorney General Loretta Lynch) or at the White House by President Obama (who customarily does not intervene in such things and would do so here either secretly or at no small political peril).

So what you must contemplate, as a leader of the Democratic Party, is the very real possibility of your likely presidential candidate actually being indicted, on criminal charges, sometime between now and, say, (a) the time of the convention at the end of July; (b) the time of the general election in early November; or (c) Inauguration Day in January. Which possibility would you prefer?"

http://lawnewz.com/politics/hillary-clintons-emails-now-might-finally-take-her-down/

[n2doc]

1. They leadership doesn't care

Everyone knows Clintons lie. They do it even when they don't need to. And they keep on lying when caught. They are a known quantity.

[SmittynMo]

2. It's a clear as the nose on your face.

Bernie is the only one. Period!! He's the only one that has a clean background. He's the only one "for the people", not corporate America. Poll after poll, he's the only one that can beat Trump. This should be a done deal by now.

I cannot figure out why people want to vote for the weaker candidate? It's amazing.

[EdwardBernays]

3. Stockholm Syndrome

Stockholm syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon described in 1973 in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending and identifying with the captors. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. The FBI's Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly eight percent of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.

[Fast Walker 52]

8. there are many reasons...

1) Bernie is too lefty, too socialist, too old

2) people have been led to ignore Clinton scandals and not believe bad stuff about her

3) people are in thrall of Hillary being the first female president, it's her turn

4) Bernie's not a real Democrat

[LiberalElite]

12. and don't forget -

he POINTS TOO MUCH! That means there's something wrong with him! (Yes, this was a topic of serious discussion over at GD-P at one time.)

[TexasBushwhacker]

16. And he's JEWISH! n/t

[leveymg]

4. As recently as February, Abrams was still misrepresenting the law to protect HRC. What changed?

As recently as February, Abrams was arguing that 18 USC Sec. 793 of the Espionage Act doesn't fit. He omitted mention that other major officials who retained, removed or shared classified materials without authorization -- Petraeus, Deutch -- were originally charged under that same section of the Espionage Act, even if they pled down (Petraeus) or the AG allowed the case to expire with the result of a Presidential pardon (Deutch). See, http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/analysis-hillary-clinton-commit-crime-based-today/story?id=36626499

I don't think he was being entirely honest, or is badly informed, and the Clintonites have seized on the argument he made. He's smart enough, and has a budget, to read the statute and do some accurate historical research. Without an explanation from him, we must conclude Dan has realized the gig is up for Hillary and is now singing a different tune.

Maybe, it's simply that he's not working for ABC.

[EdwardBernays]

5. Astute post worth reading ^^^

Thanks

[Hiraeth]

6. that was my question, too. What Changed? This is all getting very interesting. Thanks!

[winter is coming]

15. Looks like some media types figured out that Hillary lied to them.

I suspect they've been getting reassurances from "unnamed sources" that this whole email thing was a political attack that would blow over. That Hillary's home-brew server had in some way, at some time, been okayed. And now the media see they've been used, and they don't like that.

Or maybe some of the long-timers knew they were being bullshitted, but figured there wouldn't be enough evidence to prove anything. Welp.

[catnhatnh]

7. Holy Christ

this devastating post has been up over 4 hours and not a single poster has attacked the post or supported Clinton??? Things truly are changing.

[EdwardBernays]

9. I'm sure

That people are freaking out. I'm just not sure exactly how'd successfully attack it.

It seems like it's pretty unassailable - other than just going "uh uh"

[Bernin4U]

11. Still awaiting their marching orders?

Or busy inventing new attacks maybe (a la "best defense is a strong offense&quot ?

[sorechasm]

10. The Fix per this speculation would tear the Democratic Party apart

And you get that only one way: (1) Clinton gets indicted as she ought to, but not until shortly after the convention; (2) the evidence presented in the indictment (as well as that proffered to her and her attorney privately) overwhelmingly proves to her that she in fact has bigger concerns in the coming months than running for the presidency; (3) Clinton is thereby forced to step down as the nominee (a difficult prospect to conceive of, to be sure); (4) the Democratic Party (translation: President Obama, as its leader) declares an “unprecedented” emergency and asks everyone to rally around a replacement ticket; and (5) slyest of all, the Democratic Party asks Senator Sanders to please not fight this, which he could not so easily do anyway once his “clout” is dissipated upon the convention’s conclusion. (Do you remember the seemingly “odd” statements from both Jim Comey and Attorney General Lynch that their ongoing investigation would not necessarily be concluded by the time the convention is held? Not at all inconsistent with the above, are they?)

This strategy is heavily flawed in that the clout of Bernie Sanders supporters is not dissipated after the convention. Treated as pawns, they could put up a good fight against these shenanigans up to the GE.

[HereSince1628]

13. technical legal term for which is “pathological lying,” or perhaps merely “psychosis" imo=bullshit

it's yet another unsubstantiated appeal to mental disorders as a desparagement.

Really, it's flat WRONG to make unsubstantiated attributions to mental disorders.

One might say that Clinton consistently prevaricated on this topic. It doesn't mean she did it as a consequence of a disease, which is what pathological means. And when 'technically' used as a forensic descriptor psychosis requires care that narrows its use beyond a colorful adjective to describe a politician.

And BTW the author isn't Abrams it's Dan Metcalfe.

[Ino]

14. This article is by Dan Metcalfe, not Abrams.

Stellar credentials...

Dan Metcalfe is a registered Democrat who has long said that he will vote for Hillary Clinton in November “if she escapes indictment and manages to become the Democratic presidential nominee.” He served as Director of the Justice Department’s Office of Information and Privacy for more than 25 years, during which time he handled information-disclosure policy issues on the dozens of Clinton Administration scandals that arose within public view, as well as two that did not. Since retiring in 2007, he has taught secrecy law at American University’s Washington College of Law.

[Babel_17]

19. Yeah, I was going to note that

He served as Director of the Justice Department’s Office of Information and Privacy for more than 25 years

So not a partisan hack when he served, or he would have been shown the door when the other party gained control. Yeah, these people tend to get listened to by the media. Same as if/when the FBI director decides to expound on what his people uncovered from their investigation. The tension at the DOJ must be ratcheted up pretty high.

[JBoy]

17. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the scenario he paints

is playing out behind the scenes. FBI and DOJ slow-walking things to ensure any bomb doesn't drop until after the convention, taking Bernie out of play.

Assuming Hillary gets the nomination, her VP pick will be crucial. Even if she makes it through to the election, and wins, the probability of indictment while President would still be high.

[spinbaby]

20. You may be right

A scenario I can envision is that Clinton picks Biden as a running mate, then the S&%# hits the fan, and she drops out, leaving Biden as the candidate.

[jillan]

18. Did you know that Dan Abrams used to work at MSNBC? He was their legal reporter back in the day

when they were a news station. And then became general manager.

Just a little FYI
.

Dan continued to cover major news events when he joined NBC as a general assignment correspondent. Maybe most memorable, Dan covered the Bush v. Gore proceedings after the 2000 general election. Dan was on the Supreme Court steps when the pamphlet from the Bush v. Gore trial was handed out, and he became the first network correspondent to correctly interpret the decision. In 2001, The Abrams Report debuted on MSNBC and ran until 2006 when Dan accepted the position of General Manager of MSNBC. With ratings up 62% during his tenure, Dan returned to the screen in 2007 with his 9pm show Live with Dan Abrams, which later became Verdict with Dan Abrams.