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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:12 AM May 2016

Has Barney Frank lost his mind?

Is he willfully ignorant about Bernie's past or just plain ignorant? Seriously is it more important to have a Jewish DNC chair than possibly our first Jewish President? Does he not know that Bernie's relatives were murdered in the Holocaust?




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Has Barney Frank lost his mind? (Original Post) jillan May 2016 OP
If this is real, Barnie is a moron. nt thereismore May 2016 #1
I've a few choice words for Barnie, moron is too kind 2banon May 2016 #13
he's sold his soul. To him, this feels righteous. He's a hack and sad all around roguevalley May 2016 #20
Word. nt silvershadow May 2016 #27
He just MuseRider May 2016 #2
Oligarchy's gotta oligarch. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #3
I'm not sure if he said this TSIAS May 2016 #4
I agree, I'd want to see confirmation these are really his words. thesquanderer May 2016 #42
He's bought and paid for what would you expect hm to say. onecaliberal May 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #28
IMO Barney lost it some time ago, elleng May 2016 #6
he definitely is not the same guy. hollysmom May 2016 #9
Maybe just plain old dementia. GoneFishin May 2016 #51
I hate to say that about anyone, at my age, hollysmom May 2016 #52
I occasionally say it about myself. GoneFishin May 2016 #53
getting it right Barney? Pharaoh May 2016 #7
Bernie criticized Dodd Frank. TDale313 May 2016 #8
Ridiculous for him/them to do so; elleng May 2016 #10
He only criticized it because it didn't go far enough. Since Barney left congress & got a job with jillan May 2016 #11
Oh, absolutely. TDale313 May 2016 #14
Barney did not have the guts to be honest about his being gay. Bohunk68 May 2016 #29
Bernie is a hero who stands up and votes for what he believes in and not for what he is JDPriestly Jun 2016 #57
Barney Frank can't stand Bernie Sanders and I can't stand Barney Frank. bjo59 May 2016 #12
jillan is this a screenshot? 2banon May 2016 #15
Signature Bank Frank making his pay! Scootaloo May 2016 #16
I doubt Bernie Frank actually said this. If he did it's pathetic Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #17
#NeverBernie? Did he actually use that moronic hashtag? Nyan May 2016 #18
I think someone posted his quote and then added that. But have you seen him lately? jillan May 2016 #23
Yeah that's when I decided I'm not gonna hear him talk anymore. nt Nyan May 2016 #25
He has been promised something emsimon33 May 2016 #19
Fake. NT Eric J in MN May 2016 #21
Are you sure he didn't say that? jillan May 2016 #22
I searched Google News and didn't find it. Eric J in MN May 2016 #41
he's a mean, vindictive, small minded jerk dana_b May 2016 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #26
Barney Frank is another progressive that chose to divide the Dems during this election. jillan May 2016 #31
Well put. I agree with your analysis. Bohunk68 May 2016 #32
Really well said TM99. I agree. n/t ms liberty May 2016 #33
All so true, great post. No mention at all of middle & working class issues in his piece. appalachiablue May 2016 #37
To add, I've wondered about the use of 'progressive' lately especially appalachiablue May 2016 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #43
Third Way mixing and triangulation is complete bull to deliberately appalachiablue May 2016 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #30
No Barnie, it isn't progressive enough, and you aren't "getting this right". Donkees May 2016 #34
Absolutely not. He is fully aware which side his bread is buttered on. merrily May 2016 #35
Barney, the finance industry & contributions. From the OP now in GD-P on the topic. Wow. appalachiablue May 2016 #36
Frank is the very definition of a Party Hack n/t n2doc May 2016 #39
Well, I know Colbert showed him great respect. Califonz May 2016 #40
Barney has lost my respect and my vote. nt Duval May 2016 #45
Frank resents Bernie for being all the things that Frank wishes he could be. jg10003 May 2016 #46
Who the Hell Is Barney Frank? LovingA2andMI May 2016 #47
Bankster Barney. senz May 2016 #48
Dunno who this guy is but sounds pretty stupid and racist against whites actually Joob May 2016 #49
Most modern politicians are the result of Reagan's laissez faire libertarian deregulation platform deepestblue May 2016 #50
Not sure, but he lost his soul years ago QC May 2016 #54
HEY Barney! STFU! Left Coast2020 Jun 2016 #55
Barney Frank is intent on dividing the Democratic Party. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #56
The ending of this “response” demonstrates… CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #58

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
4. I'm not sure if he said this
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:20 AM
May 2016

Before I jump to conclusions, I'd like to make sure this is actually his quote. If he did say this, Barney Frank is dead to me. I don't think Frank would be stupid enough to accuse Bernie of "white flight". This sounds like some unhinged internet troll.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
42. I agree, I'd want to see confirmation these are really his words.
Mon May 30, 2016, 03:38 PM
May 2016

This does sound too stupid to be a legit quote.

You know what Abraham Lincoln said, "Don't believe all those quotes you see on the internet."

Response to onecaliberal (Reply #5)

elleng

(130,964 posts)
6. IMO Barney lost it some time ago,
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:21 AM
May 2016

I don't recall how close to his retirement, but his approach to things seems to have changed 'gradually' over recent years. Used to think of him as a knowledgeable fighter for the People, but that's not been the case for a while.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
9. he definitely is not the same guy.
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:31 AM
May 2016

The problem with being an Icon is you have to know when they go over the line. Sometimes thy hurt their own legacy of being on the forefront of a movement
He does have a right to say what he wishes, but I saw him on TV the other day and had to shut it off, he was ranting and bullying others on the show. Something is going on.

 

Pharaoh

(8,209 posts)
7. getting it right Barney?
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:22 AM
May 2016

Nope, you are an establishment hack, What this revolution is talking about is either going way over your head or your plain stupid.

One things for sure though, you're a nasty angry old man.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
8. Bernie criticized Dodd Frank.
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:28 AM
May 2016

It's my strong impression that's where a lot of the animosity Frank feels towards Bernie comes from. A lot of the Democratic leadership seems to take Bernie's criticisms of the system very, very personally.

elleng

(130,964 posts)
10. Ridiculous for him/them to do so;
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:33 AM
May 2016

GROW UP and behave like adults, take the criticism, be constructive!

jillan

(39,451 posts)
11. He only criticized it because it didn't go far enough. Since Barney left congress & got a job with
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:37 AM
May 2016

the banksters, you have to agree Barney was not willing to go far enough.

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/245325-barney-frank-champion-of-financial-regulations-joins-a-bank-board
Barney Frank, champion of financial regulations, joins a bank board

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
29. Barney did not have the guts to be honest about his being gay.
Mon May 30, 2016, 05:13 AM
May 2016

If during his years, he had come out, he would have been an inspiration to GLBT all through the country. But, he was cowardly and waited until it was the thing to do. I have no respect for him.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
57. Bernie is a hero who stands up and votes for what he believes in and not for what he is
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 01:50 AM
Jun 2016

paid to believe in.

And that fact makes a lot of more "traditional" and in-crowd Democrats feel ashamed. People who feel ashamed often strike out in anger in the way that Barney Frank did.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
16. Signature Bank Frank making his pay!
Mon May 30, 2016, 02:06 AM
May 2016

Telling that he measures "progressivism" by tokens, too. Would it hurt to note the progressive achievements of these people that Frank is reducing to what's instead of who's?

Granted in DWS' case, that's a list that would be going in reverse...

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
17. I doubt Bernie Frank actually said this. If he did it's pathetic
Mon May 30, 2016, 02:13 AM
May 2016

And several on DU were cheering this on earlier today, which is also pathetic.

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
18. #NeverBernie? Did he actually use that moronic hashtag?
Mon May 30, 2016, 02:19 AM
May 2016

Please help me out here.
I'm having a hard time understanding why a 76-year-old senator is acting like an annoying schoolgirl. Is it because Clintons are such a mean exclusive clique? Jesus.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
23. I think someone posted his quote and then added that. But have you seen him lately?
Mon May 30, 2016, 04:15 AM
May 2016

He is acting like an annoying kid. Lawrence O has had him on recently & he goes off, shouting down anyone that tries to speak.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
41. I searched Google News and didn't find it.
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:56 AM
May 2016

Such a provacactive statement by a famous ex-Congressman against Bernie Sanders would have been there.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
24. he's a mean, vindictive, small minded jerk
Mon May 30, 2016, 04:18 AM
May 2016

He's more like Trump than anyone and should probably go and work for him.

Response to jillan (Original post)

jillan

(39,451 posts)
31. Barney Frank is another progressive that chose to divide the Dems during this election.
Mon May 30, 2016, 05:19 AM
May 2016

This has really been an ugly primary.

It saddens me.

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
32. Well put. I agree with your analysis.
Mon May 30, 2016, 05:24 AM
May 2016

Barney, though, did wait for a long time to come out. Even though, many of us knew he was gay. But, he has been acting like a real dipshit lately and some of the stuff that has come out of his mouth has been awful. Must be looking to be SecTreas in a Hillary Administration.

appalachiablue

(41,143 posts)
38. To add, I've wondered about the use of 'progressive' lately especially
Mon May 30, 2016, 09:57 AM
May 2016

by people like Bill De Blasio and now Barney. To some it seems the meaning is- modern, 21st century, up to date. Hell, there's even a Nordic-KKK group in Arkansas with a website and webcast that uses 'progressive', as I saw from watching one episode of host Kamau Bell's CNN show, 'United Shades of America.' It's Harrison, AR with a 96% white population. That took some planning and hutzpah for him to meet with those disgusting Klan groups.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/23/media/w-kamau-bell-kkk-united-shades/

Response to appalachiablue (Reply #38)

appalachiablue

(41,143 posts)
44. Third Way mixing and triangulation is complete bull to deliberately
Mon May 30, 2016, 05:42 PM
May 2016

confuse and deceive people the way 'Neo-Liberal' has been attached to free market economics. ~ Got it, the Progressive, ie 'New' Klan, like the 'New' Dems.

Democratic socialism and social democracy as in FDR and Europe is what I prefer and think of when hearing 'Progressive' used today, since Liberal was demonized a while ago. What a mess.

Speaking of messes, good post on Barney. When I worked at a federal agency and his senate office called I was always especially nice to his staff, and I met him very briefly. Gruff is the word, to me anyhoo.

Response to jillan (Original post)

Donkees

(31,413 posts)
34. No Barnie, it isn't progressive enough, and you aren't "getting this right".
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:03 AM
May 2016

Your ego is shaming, labeling, distorting, etc., and excluding the core, compassion.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
35. Absolutely not. He is fully aware which side his bread is buttered on.
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:07 AM
May 2016

And his bread is buttered on the side of his current lobbying gig.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
47. Who the Hell Is Barney Frank?
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:36 AM
May 2016

No really, who the hell is he to tell Bernie Sanders anything. #STFUBarneyFrank!

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
48. Bankster Barney.
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:06 AM
May 2016

Am beginning to wonder if social issues may be the last refuge of a scoundrel.

Joob

(1,065 posts)
49. Dunno who this guy is but sounds pretty stupid and racist against whites actually
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:55 AM
May 2016

Sorry he defined Bernie as white while at the same time defining DNC chair as Jewish.
Worded for his narrative specifically to point out that he was white as if the DNC chair was not.

For this reason alone, he's describing specifically Bernie as white to bring him down thus racist.

I'm not even white and it pisses me off. Look, he could generally make the statement I guess
(though still kinda racist imo, but it'd generally be accepted by people) and it wouldn't be perceived as racist, but he brought DNC chair into this and made it about color of his skin with just him. When they are both Jewish and white.

Race-Baitin'

deepestblue

(349 posts)
50. Most modern politicians are the result of Reagan's laissez faire libertarian deregulation platform
Tue May 31, 2016, 05:58 AM
May 2016

They don't know any other way. That's one 30,000 foot take on it.

That's why Bernie is so important. He represents a sea change that we usually only see around twice per century.

I.e.

FDR 1932
Reagan 1980 (52 years later)
Sanders 2016 (36 years later)

QC

(26,371 posts)
54. Not sure, but he lost his soul years ago
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:10 PM
May 2016

when he took millions from the big banks while allegedly regulating the big banks and then retired and passed through the revolving door into a job at a big bank where he can now advise them on how to get around the regulations he wrote.

Some say it's not good optics to put such a person in charge of our convention, but I think he is in fact the perfect choice to run the convention.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
56. Barney Frank is intent on dividing the Democratic Party.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 01:47 AM
Jun 2016

A lot of life-long active Democrats like me support Bernie.

He seems to think that he and the rest of the "in" crowd define the Democratic Party.

Lots of long-time Democrats in California support Bernie.

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
58. The ending of this “response” demonstrates…
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:38 AM
Jun 2016

that Barney Frank is not a suitable choice to help write the platform of the Democratic Party.

He is not only out of touch but absolutely hostile to Bernie Sanders—and he is out of touch and absolutely hostile to the platform of Bernie Sanders’s campaign and that over 70 percent of the Democrats’ No. 1 base in voting-age group, those 18–29, carried for Bernie and not Hillary.

Barney Frank is another example of a career politician who needed to go long before he actually did leave Congress.

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