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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:55 PM May 2016

Interesting paragraph regarding the FBI investigation of Clinton Foundation.

From the Washington Examiner today, this comes at the end of an article reporting that Obama's Federal Trade Commission has declined Congress' request to investigate the Foundation as a sham charity, despite the low ratings of watchdog organizations

The charitable organization is still under investigation by the FBI, which is looking into allegations of public corruption stemming from Hillary Clinton's time as secretary of state. Those include concerns that foundation resources were improperly commingled with those belonging to the federal government, and that it received contributions from foreign dignitaries Clinton was in a position to benefit

What do you make of this phrase about comingling foundation resources tihe government resources?


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ftc-rejects-congressional-request-to-investigate-clinton-foundation/article/2591767

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Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
1. Benghazi was BS, but the pay to play with the Clinton Foundation is real
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:02 PM
May 2016

I know Hillary supporters are in denial, but there is something there.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
13. "I have read"...no link, sorry, that the emails that are being discovered
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:47 PM
May 2016

relate also to Benghazi with information not known earlier. And of course it makes sense. The "prove it" game is getting a bit tarnished as things leak out.

Same with the Foundation. I think that's why it's taking so much time retrieving the emails. They tell the story...probably more than we even know.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
2. It's possible....
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:04 PM
May 2016

...they are referring to aides like Pagliano, Abedin, and Mills doing Foundation work on State Dept time.

And I don't think the Foundation will stand up to close scrutiny...it's a money-laundering operation. They pay for First Class air travel and other Clinton expenses, allow them to steer money to friends (hiring Bloomenthall, buying Huertes help), and only the smallest amounts actually go to legitimate charities.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
3. Clinton had aides that worked for both the foundation and her as SoS.
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:10 PM
May 2016

It is extremely likely that they did work that is technically "foundation" work while in a government facility. 'Cause even responding to foundation email at your government desk would qualify.

Now, such a trivial situation is not normally prosecuted, but they may find less trivial situations. Or not.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
4. yes, that
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:25 PM
May 2016

I didn't think of "resources" here as "human resources." Maybe it is also the use of the personal server, the space the server was in, etc. Pagliano was definitely a shared resource. He worked for both State and also the Foundation. As did Abedin of course.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
6. Legally, it's anything the government pays for.
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:43 PM
May 2016

Including the electricity to run the lights while you are in a government building.

Trivial co-mingling like that is not normally investigated. For example, you can respond to personal email from a government computer without fear of being charged. But non-trivial co-mingling has been prosecuted in the past.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
8. I think it means State information (emails) being
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:47 PM
May 2016

stored on hardware that belonged to the foundation. Who paid for the server hardware? If Pagliano's work on the server was paid for by the foundation and not by DOS then that would fit the description. I don't think his maintenance of the private server was paid for by the State. The emails were certainly property of the State. Was the server? Was Pagliano's work? Nice comingled web.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
10. the emails were the property of the American people.
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:52 PM
May 2016

Not the State Department.

Pagliano was paid by both the Clintons and the State Dept.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
11. I don't think that Pagliano's job description at State
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:04 PM
May 2016

included maintenance of private hardware, which is why I think that his maintenance of the emails, whatever he may have done on that server, must have been paid for by the foundation. So we have, in effect, a resource of the foundation (Pagliano) handling the property of the people (emails). Hence the comingling.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
12. yeah, ok
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:44 PM
May 2016

The supervisors at State did not even know that Pagliano was also working for Clintons separately.

dae

(3,396 posts)
14. I think this is the scandal that finally nails them.
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:25 AM
May 2016

If not, just put slots in Congressmen doors and label them bribes only.

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