Just realized the Clinton campaign is not even trying to unite with Bernie voters

[Playinghardball]

Submitted 6 hours ago by bigdirkmalone

I came to a bit of a epiphany today. I couldn't understand how the party and Clinton herself could be making so little effort to at least make it look like the care about Bernie's voters. But I get it now. They think Trump is so bad that they don't need us.

I think this is a gross miscalculation on their part, but I can't think of any other reason for the official Democratic Party to be so openly hostile to Bernie and his voters.

Read all of the comments at:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4jwjgl/just_realized_the_clinton_campaign_is_not_even/

[RufusTFirefly]

1. "They think Trump is so bad that they don't need us."

Yes. And this leads us to question the whole raison d'etre for the Trump campaign -- although that could quickly lead us into shiny headgear territory.

[Baobab]

11. They have a very great deal to hide-and once somebody knows it, they dont want them around.

It is so bad that it may change peoples points of view on things.

They would rather lose.

[lostnfound]

27. Yes. Plus, At the very least it's easier to govern as corporatist

Than as a progressive - and at worst, it's more lucrative.

[TDale313]

2. Nope. They don't want to unite. They want us to go away.

And I am starting to think they are trying to provoke something ugly to make the case that we're angry fringy lefties who should be ignored and put in our place if we don't go away.

[Baobab]

17. We should get a right to explain our side of it fairly-because she's part of an attack on us by FTAs

Which they started in the first Clinton Administration-

The biggest and most destructive attack was GATS in 1994-

http://www.pnhp.org/sites/default/files/Nick%20Skala%20GAT%20and%20Health%20Reform.pdf

or (alternative URL) http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.405.5725 (BASICALLY EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN TOLD ABOUT HEALTH CARE IS WRONG)
http://www.maine.gov/legis/opla/ctpchlthcaresub.pdf (State single payer is blocked ! Shhh!)
http://www.policyalternatives.ca/sites/default/files/uploads/publications/National_Office_Pubs/putting_health_first.pdf
http://www.adaction.org/media/TradingLives.pdf
http://www.iatp.org/files/GATS_and_Public_Service_Systems.htm
http://www.eua.be/Libraries/publication/EUA_Statement_TTIP.pdf (Public Higher Education is under attack too)

https://www.policyalternatives.ca/sites/default/files/uploads/publications/National%20Office/2016/02/Major_Complications.pdf (TPP)
http://www.policyalternatives.ca/sites/default/files/uploads/publications/National_Office_Pubs/competition_policy.pdf
http://www.policyalternatives.ca/sites/default/files/uploads/publications/National_Office_Pubs/facing_facts.pdf
http://www.policyalternatives.ca/sites/default/files/uploads/publications/National_Office_Pubs/2005/divide_and_conquer.pdf

Financial: (GATS was arguably one of the biggest reasons for the 2008 crash- by causing the repeal of Glass-Steagall)

http://www.citizen.org/documents/That%27sAllTheyGot.pdf

https://www.citizen.org/documents/Memo%20-%20Unanswered%20questions%20memo%20for%20Geneva.pdf

https://www.citizen.org/documents/memo-gats-conflict-with-bank-size-limits-may-10-2011.pdf

https://www.citizen.org/documents/FinanceReregulationFactSheetFINAL.pdf

(Trade Agreements and the Net)

[Scootaloo]

3. Just now?

I mean... I don't want to get all hipster, but I was totally into this idea before anyone else heard of it

Seriously, it became pretty obvious back last July, when "OMFG SANDERS IS A RACIST JEW AND HIS SUPPORTERS ARE WHITE SUPREMACISTS!" nonsense started. Right there, that's pretty blatant scorched-earth stuff.

[Phlem]

18. Right!?

I'd take it back further to the last midterms.

Basically the second day after our losses I started railing on the Thirdway and got immediate vitriol.

That shit's just gotten way worse up to this point and constant.

Her supporters were like this the first time she ran but they have clearly quadrupled their efforts.

[Mike__M]

20. Yep

I didn't get it until the "shouting" spell, but in hindsight . . .

[Maedhros]

4. The Party hasn't wanted liberals and progressives to have a voice for quite some time now.

They want us to sit down, shut up, and vote how they tell us.

[J_J_]

5. they plan on stealing the general as well?

Trump might not look the other way like Bernie has.

[RufusTFirefly]

19. That's assuming he actually wants to win.

[arcane1]

6. Their GOAL is to discredit progressive ideology itself.

That's why Hillary is focusing her attention on REPUBLICAN DONORS.

[Beowulf]

7. Going back to the 80's when the DLC emerged

and the Clintons became part of the leadership of that group, their stated goal was to move the party away from New Deal politics toward a more corporate-friendly party. Their mission was to make the progressive wing of the Democratic Party insignificant. They wanted to be able to ignore them while still counting on their votes because where else were they going to go? When progressives begin to rise up and voice their concerns they are quickly crushed. Think Howard Dean in 2004 and the Occupy Movement. Perhaps the first group to feel the wrath of these "new democrats" was Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition.

Crushing movements such as the one Bernie is leading is part of their reason for being. That sounds harsh, but that's who they are. They can calmly triangulate with right wingers, but get apoplectic when the left wants to be included.

[LongTomH]

8. So what else is news, Bubby???

Hillary and DWS have been trying to kick out the liberals (Bernie supporters) all along!

[Ed Suspicious]

9. They covet the more reliable and more easily manipulated compassionate conservative vote.

They feel if they can bag that bloc, they truly don't need the left. It's a long-term strategy.

[beltanefauve]

15. The Left

is more likely to disrupt the gravy train.

[Ed Suspicious]

25. Precisely.

[thereismore]

10. That is correct. Her majesty the queen has an "insurmountable lead." She has WON, dammit! Stop! nt

[RufusTFirefly]

14. Yes! Ever since Super Tuesday she's been running the table!

Or, perhaps I'm mistaken about that.

[Depaysement]

12. "You're either with us or against us"

Take it or leave it. That's the strategy.

Now Sanders supporters are being brought to heel or cast aside.

She's running a centrist GE strategy, an inside running game from tackle to tackle, to use a football analogy.

[silvershadow]

13. They think the triangulation is enough. This cycle isn't Dem vs Rep, its men vs women-

in their minds. They are wiling to throw the FDR wing/Union Labor wing under the bus. The bonus is, by the time the TeeVee talking heads catch up to it, it will be years from now, and only talked about in the historical context.

[winter is coming]

16. They still don't understand how alienated many potential voters are.

They think the Trump sideshow is enough to bring voters to the polls in November. "Booga-booga scary Republican!" has worked in the past. Surely it will work again. Right?

Right?

[Blue Meany]

21. Here's the thing: they don't have many deeply-held principles, certainly not many they would

make sacrifices for, so they don't understand those who are motivated primarily by principle. They think most everyone will compromise principles for their own self-interests and don't really care deep down about wars or poverty or racism. Those issues are just to mobilize special-interest voters, but they don't think there are people who might not, out of principle, decide not to vote for the lesser of two evils, who might even consider Trump a better choice because of his isolationism and hostility towards trade agreement, or who might prefer to vote for Jill Stein or stay at home, if only to send a message to corporate Democrats.

[Sherman A1]

22. I have no problem at all with that being the case.

They support their candidate as I support mine, that's all good.


Of course what happens with my vote in November is entirely my decision and shall remain so until it is cast.

[Doctor_J]

23. Charles Koch is on their side now, so they don't have to pretend to like liberals

They have endorsements from the National Review, New Republic, Newsweak, and other "respectable" right wingers, so their pretense of wanting an end to war, non-profit healthcare, an end to fracking, and all other progressive goals can be dropped.

[LiberalArkie]

24. If it is Trump vs Clinton and Trump wins it is blamed on the independents and Bernie.

It is really a win win situation for the 1%. It is always someone elses fault. It could not have been that Gore just did not enthuse anyone to vote.

[CanadaexPat]

26. They want to unite with disaffected Repubs.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

28. Exactly

[Dont call me Shirley]

29. Not one shred. How can we forget she and her good pal Ram think we are effing arrs.