Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumDoes Hillary have Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy - where her victim is the entire country?
Yes or No?
To understand why I am asking that question one needs to understand that the GATS FTA is behind our current health care policy, but thats been hidden from us, and instead we've been fed a huge bunch of lies by invariably, the powers that be, the current political establishment- to hide the FTA connection.
It seems the core of the problems originated with the 1994-1998 deal-
but the three new, pending FTAs all mirror its language- a good example is the fact that the definition of scope described in sig link 3. (again you need to have read at least link one and three to understand this) is replicated - it appears in all three.
Please first read the four papers in my sig and do a little reading- and then let me explain why I think this is the case.
I think our health care mess is a contrived, fake crisis.
here is Wikipedia on Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchausen_syndrome_by_proxy
Munchausen syndrome by proxy
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Munchausen syndrome by proxy (MSbP or MbP) is a behaviour pattern in which a caregiver or spouse fabricates, exaggerates, or induces mental or physical health problems in those who are in their care, usually to gain attention or sympathy from others.[1] With deception at its core, this behaviour is an elusive, potentially lethal, and frequently misunderstood form of child abuse[2] or medical neglect[3] that has been difficult to define, detect, and confirm.
(what they are gaining from others is access for US industries such as big Pharma - to eliminate generics- Big Insurance and Big Education- as well as financial services- But to get the leverage they want, they have to put US jobs on the table, lots of good high perceived value jobs. Since immigration is a thrd rail, they have named the visas "non-immigrant" visas- and made them temporary- with an open time limit, it seems, just not lasting after the person leaves a specific job. Thats called GATS (or now TiSA) "Mode Four". Also India is also talking about a Trade facilitation Agreement on services.
MSbP has also spawned much heated controversy within the legal and social services communities. In a handful of high-profile cases, mothers who have had several children die from sudden infant death syndrome have been declared to have MSbP. Based on MSbP testimony of an expert witness, they were tried for murder, convicted, and imprisoned for several years. In some cases, that testimony was later impeached, resulting in exoneration of those defendants.[4]
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http://www.policyalternatives.ca/sites/default/files/uploads/publications/National_Office_Pubs/putting_health_first.pdf
http://www.pnhp.org/excessdeaths/excess-deaths-state-by-state.pdf
http://pnhp.org/excessdeaths/
http://www.pnhp.org/resources/pnhp-research-the-case-for-a-national-health-program
http://www.pnhp.org/states_flatline/State%20Health%20Reform%20Flatlines%20IJHS%20-%202008.pdf
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.491.5940
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Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)Last edited Wed May 18, 2016, 03:57 PM - Edit history (1)
When your real goal is the exact opposite, making health care forever unaffordable so people can squeeze the absolute most possible amounts of money out of others for insurance, drugs (and a similar set of issues apply to higher education).The job trading scheme in GATS is described here. See the graphs and description on Page 278-279 - the fake crisis is to make Americans accept this scheme which wil result in huge job loss eventually, as people from other countries being paid much less take those jobs. Likely millions of them. this is as jobs are going away globally, something they are also keeping hidden.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)Could I get you to read some things on trade deals - this shows the real reasons for her positions on health care and education-
also that it embeds a huge trade of good obs for markets- which will push wages for numerous skilled areas way down (thats why they may feel they need "crises" or "emergencies" and they will allege its to make them affordable, but they wont work- the structure is the problem and the reduced costs will just be more profit- keep services just as unaffordable as now.
the #1 thing is Hillary's health program was fake, it was a cover up of GATS- which is an attack on the worlds services- thats being continued in the three pending FTAs- its still a unseen hand in a great deal of policy- Read the first few first-
http://www.pnhp.org/sites/default/files/Nick%20Skala%20GAT%20and%20Health%20Reform.pdf (Read this first)
or (alternative URL) http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.405.5725
http://www.maine.gov/legis/opla/ctpchlthcaresub.pdf
http://www.policyalternatives.ca/sites/default/files/uploads/publications/National_Office_Pubs/putting_health_first.pdf
http://www.adaction.org/media/TradingLives.pdf
http://www.iatp.org/files/GATS_and_Public_Service_Systems.htm
http://www.eua.be/Libraries/publication/EUA_Statement_TTIP.pdf
http://www.pnhp.org/resources/pnhp-research-the-case-for-a-national-health-program (lots of research on single payer linked from one page)
A sudden unexplained death, that doesnt seem as if it would have been likely- given how his paper had nailed this huge problem with GATS and the US health care reform-
- he was 27- look at the timing- A vote in the House on Single payer was scheduled soon afterward-
What happened here? Nick Skala was almost succeeding with single payer in 2009- then he suddenly died!
http://www.pnhpillinois.org/pipermail/activists_healthcareil.org/2009-August/000155.html
http://www.pnhpillinois.org/pipermail/activists_healthcareil.org/2009-August/000156.html
http://www.pnhpillinois.org/pipermail/activists_healthcareil.org/2009-August/000157.html
http://www.pnhpillinois.org/pipermail/activists_healthcareil.org/2009-August/000158.html
http://www.pnhpillinois.org/pipermail/activists_healthcareil.org/2009-August/000159.html
http://www.pnhpillinois.org/pipermail/activists_healthcareil.org/2009-August/000160.html
(This is the author of the IJHS paper perhaps his last video)
https://www.policyalternatives.ca/sites/default/files/uploads/publications/National%20Office/2016/02/Major_Complications.pdf (TPP)
http://www.policyalternatives.ca/sites/default/files/uploads/publications/National_Office_Pubs/competition_policy.pdf
http://www.policyalternatives.ca/sites/default/files/uploads/publications/National_Office_Pubs/facing_facts.pdf
http://www.policyalternatives.ca/sites/default/files/uploads/publications/National_Office_Pubs/2005/divide_and_conquer.pdf
Financial: (GATS was arguably one of the biggest reasons for the 2008 crash- by causing the repeal of Glass-Steagall)
http://www.citizen.org/documents/That%27sAllTheyGot.pdf
https://www.citizen.org/documents/Memo%20-%20Unanswered%20questions%20memo%20for%20Geneva.pdf
https://www.citizen.org/documents/memo-gats-conflict-with-bank-size-limits-may-10-2011.pdf
https://www.citizen.org/documents/FinanceReregulationFactSheetFINAL.pdf
TiSA-
http://www.ei-ie.org/en/news/news_details/2659
http://www.world-psi.org/sites/default/files/eng_the_really_good_friends_report_tisa.pdf
http://www.world-psi.org/sites/default/files/documents/research/report_tisa_eng_lr2.pdf
TTIP
http://www.ciel.org/Publications/PublicServicesScope.pdf
http://ciel.org/Publications/Assesment_GATS_WTO.pdf
http://www.ciel.org/us-states-ability-to-protect-from-toxic-chemicals-under-attack-on-two-fronts-at-home-and-abroad/
http://www.ciel.org/Publications/ToxicPartnership_Jun2014.pdf
http://ciel.org/Publications/TTIP_Leaked_29Sep2014.pdf
http://ciel.org/Publications/ToxicPartnership_Mar2014.pdf
http://www.ciel.org/news/leaked-ttip-draft-for-chemicals-sector-reveals-a-toxic-partnership/
http://www.ciel.org/news/fast-tracked-trade-deals-rush-us-toward-a-toxic-partnership/
http://www.ciel.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/CIEL_Preempting-Public-Interest_22Sept2015.pdf
http://action.sierraclub.org/site/DocServer/Analysis_of_EU_Energy_Proposal_for_TTIP-Final_-_Sierra_C.pdf?docID=15781 (Fracking lock in)
http://www.epha.org/IMG/pdf/ISDS_Consultation_Response_-_Final_version.pdf
http://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/ST-11103-2013-DCL-1/en/pdf
http://www.ttip-leaks.org/
https://www.sierraclub.org/sites/www.sierraclub.org/files/uploads-wysiwig/climate-roadblocks.pdf
http://www.sierraclub.org/compass/2016/03/want-keep-fossil-fuels-ground-stop-these-trade-deals
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/may/01/leaked-ttip-documents-cast-doubt-on-eu-us-trade-deal
http://www.eua.be/activities-services/news/newsitem/15-02-05/EUA_Council_statement_on_TTIP_and_TISA.aspx
http://www.waronwant.org/media/what-i-didn%E2%80%99t-read-ttip-reading-room
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/06/05/ttip-an-agenda-for-corporate-plunder/
http://ttip2015.eu/blog-detail/blog/Transport%20Environment%20ISDS%20TTIP.html
http://www.iatp.org/documents/following-breadcrumbs-tpp-text-provides-clues-to-us-positions-in-ttip
http://www.iatp.org/blog/201603/from-tpp-to-ttip-clues-to-new-food-trade-rules
http://www.ciel.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/LCD_TTIP_Jan2015.pdf
https://correctiv.org/en/investigations/ttip/blog/2016/02/21/tariffs-dropped-zero/
http://www.ciel.org/news/leaked-ttip-draft-for-chemicals-sector-reveals-a-toxic-partnership/
http://www.ciel.org/news/ttip-leak-eu-proposal-undermines-democratic-values/
https://correctiv.org/recherchen/ttip/blog/2016/02/22/ttip-schafft-neue-grenzen/
http://www.desmogblog.com/2014/04/02/our-energy-moment-blue-engine-pr-firm-fracked-gas-exports-pr-campaign
https://www.foeeurope.org/no-fracking-way-report-060314
https://www.foeeurope.org/sites/default/files/publications/foee_ttip-isds-fracking-060314.pdf
Baobab
(4,667 posts)Crazy as it sounds.. could you read my links?
madamesilverspurs
(15,805 posts)Given Bernie's proclivity to attribute every loss or less-than-landslide outcome to "cheating" or "rigging" on Hillary's behalf, your projection is rather marvelously misplaced.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)Just read nick Skala's paper- realizing that this FTA was being planned out in 1994 - at the same time as Hillary's supposed plan..
http://www.pnhp.org/sites/default/files/Nick%20Skala%20GAT%20and%20Health%20Reform.pdf
and then realize that that paper's author suddenly died on August 9, 2009..
if you read the email messages to the Illinois list- just read them one after another-
http://www.pnhpillinois.org/pipermail/activists_healthcareil.org/2009-August/000155.html
http://www.pnhpillinois.org/pipermail/activists_healthcareil.org/2009-August/000156.html
http://www.pnhpillinois.org/pipermail/activists_healthcareil.org/2009-August/000157.html
http://www.pnhpillinois.org/pipermail/activists_healthcareil.org/2009-August/000158.html
http://www.pnhpillinois.org/pipermail/activists_healthcareil.org/2009-August/000159.html
http://www.pnhpillinois.org/pipermail/activists_healthcareil.org/2009-August/000160.html
http://www.pnhpillinois.org/pipermail/activists_healthcareil.org/2009-August/date.html#156
also, watch this video-
It may be his last video
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Now watch Hillary telling us medicare for All is just never going t happen, look at her delivery style..
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)read what isn't meant for you.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)For example, they overrule the election and create new supranational rights which "Trump" elections- completely nullifying the rights of the country to decide policy - Presidents and politicians matter not at all..
See the following which is proof...
A case brought by Dutch insurer Achmea - under ISDS - overruled the will of the voters of the Slovak Republic on single payer health care in Achmea v. Slovak Republic!
http://www.italaw.com/sites/default/files/case-documents/italaw3207.pdf (start on page 13)
A similar thing happened to South Africa- with GATS
https://www.policyalternatives.ca/publications/reports/gats-and-south-africas-national-health-act
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Achmea is a Clinton donor- they paid Bill Clinton $600,000 to make a single speech!
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/06/insurer_achmea_paid_bill_clint/