Ask the Administrators thread

[LiberalArkie]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1259&pid=10315

[EdwardBernays]

1. Lol

One of the people mentioned is literally the biggest racist I've run into online in years... But they're a pro-Hillary racist so...

[dorkzilla]

2. Wow!

Though I think the fissures in the party are deeper than they appear (i.e.I'm not so certain they can be patched up after the primary is over) props to Skinner for the truth bomb!

[Duckhunter935]

3. I saw that

Finally Skinner admits the truth about his amnesty

[LiberalArkie]

5. You will always have a certain percent of a group who suck up to those in authority.

The admins made a mistake by announcing at the start that they were for HRC. This allowed a certain group of people to believe that they could get away with anything as long as they were on the admin side.

[Cooley Hurd]

4. Wow!!!!

...and a new moderating system is in the works, too!

[LiberalElite]

12. This is the Sanders group - you took an accidental wrong left turn eom

[Cooley Hurd]

13. Pardon me?

What is that supposed to mean?

[Cooley Hurd]

29. Still waiting for a response.

I'm certainly in the correct group.

[merrily]

6. The one-sidedness is stunning.

But, the concern for Skinner's future redeems it.


Folks, please, it's a message board, not your mom, dad, significant other or child. And you do have other "homes," some of which even have hidden forums where you can vent.

[TBF]

28. Not sure about the hidden forums bit -

unless there's something I'm not aware of. Even if they aren't viewable to those who don't log in, anything can but cut and pasted from there. Always something to keep in mind when on the Internet. It's really sad it has come to this.

[merrily]

31. Is that Dorothy Parker?

hillarysupporters.com has at least one hidden forum for posters.

So does the board for jackasses. (Cautionary tale in what not to name your board.)

[TBF]

38. Yes

sometimes I'm Dorothy ... sometimes I'm Emma

Well as Hillary has learned things that are on the net don't always go away as fast as you'd like them to. Just something for us all to remember.

[Scuba]

7. Lame ass post, terrific response.

Glad to see the jury system is being tossed.

[Cooley Hurd]

8. Agreed!

I can dig why they tried it out to begin with, but it's time to go back to what worked the best - moderators! Time for someone to scrub out the hot tub and fill it back up!

[corkhead]

9. I agree with everything Skinner said but the part about being "stacked against Hillary supporters"

Nothing was "stacked". Bernie supporters far outnumber Hillary supporters on this site, plain and simple. That Hillary supporters feel outnumbered and not represented in a way that reflects what is going on in the primary should be no surprise. The only way to make DU even or lean Hillary is for Skinner to put a thumb on the scale. If that happened in real life, we could end up with the less supported candidate getting the nomination.

Oh wait.

[LiberalElite]

11. also, this part:

"after the primaries we're all on the same side"? or we "don't belong".... HMMM......

[corkhead]

19. I will give the benefit of the doubt that it means what it has in the past

Once the primary is done, there will be a choice between only 2 candidates that have a chance of winning the Presidency. If you support the wrong one or agitate against the the election of the not quite as bad one, you don't belong here. I am no Hillary fan, but I don't want to see The Donald in the Oval Office.

I will be making a decision in the fall as to whether she will need my vote to win and I don't expect that she will get it unless my state is in play and that the Presidency is up for grabs. That said, I am not going to try to sabotage her candidacy if she wins the nomination. Anyone who does probably doesn't belong on this site.

[LiberalElite]

21. "the wrong one" I see.... nt

[corkhead]

23. yes, in the eyes of the owners of this site. I am being realistic.

[LiberalElite]

27. Well, I have somewhere else to go anyway nt

[corkhead]

47. That's cool, there's a chance you will see me there too.

I am just in the school that believes if we end up being stuck with the choice of Trump or Hillary, one or the other is going to win no matter what we do. I am still hoping that we are not stuck with that choice. As disgusted as I will be if those are the two we have to pick from, I am not in the "bring the revolution sooner" camp and nor is the owner of a website that in its bylaws says it exists to support Democrats.

Should Hillary survive all the scandal and manage to secure the nomination, I think we will be much better off as a country hammering her as President from the left than we will be trying to get a President Trump to do the right thing.

peace.

[in_cog_ni_to]

26. That's the way it's always been. Whomever wins (or steals) the nomination must be supported by DU

members. Which means if Clinton wins, I'm outta here again - for 4-8 years.

I don't support anyone who represents everything I abhor.

DU will be a very quiet place if Clinton succeeds in stealing this election. 90% of the members here support BERNIE!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[merrily]

32. No one has the nomination yet.

In theory, if you are more numerous on the board, you are likelier to be picked on a jury. However, I have seen quite a few jury decisions that have gone in favor of Hillary supporters, some with really awful posts. And, conversely, I have seen jury decisions that have gone against Bernie supporters that should not have. So, something besides strict numbers is going on.

[corkhead]

45. I'm no Hillary fan and I just checked. I was on 22 juries in April and 8 so far in May.

and I am not on DU that much. I saw that others are saying that they are not being selected to be on juries and I am just saying from my personal experience there has been no change for me and if anything I wouldn't be surprised if I was on more juries in April than any other month since they started. It could be just that random doesn't always look that way. I am not ruling out the possibility of shenanigans, but it could just be simply the law of averages. When you flip a coin 100 times it doesn't always land 50/50.

[merrily]

50. Well the admins are taking people out of the jury pool.

I don't alert much. However, a couple or three times, I've alerted and heard zero back. No "you alerted on a post that was alerted on" pm no "results of your alert" pm, no nothing.

There was also a post that took over three hours to jury. So, I have seen some odd things.

[corkhead]

52. I have had that happen too and figured out that when MIRT disappears a troll

while a jury is out or when you alert on something, you don't hear back.

You are right about the jury pool, I didn't know that until I saw this post after I wrote reply #45:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125910326#post1

[merrily]

53. If MIRT is on the job, it's usually because someone else alerted before I did.

In that circumstance, I should get the "you alerted on a post that was already alerted on" and the poster should be banned if I look again. In the circumstances I'm talking about, neither of those things happened. In no instance was the poster I alerted on a newbie either; and newbies are MIRT's jurisdiction.

I'd also like to know why a post took over three hours to jury.

[winter is coming]

56. 40 for me for April; 12 so far for May.

I haven't been around as much this month and my star expired a few days ago.

[corkhead]

51. Disregard what I said in post #45 about randomness. I hadn't seen this thread when I wrote it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125910326#post1

I stand corrected.

[LiberalElite]

10. I am tempted to ask

S. in that thread if not calling Sanders supporters for jury duty is part of the "new system."

[dorkzilla]

15. If he really thinks it's stacked against HRC supporters

I'd really love to know why that is happening. I'm 100% eligible and haven't served on a jury since March.

[LiberalElite]

16. I asked ATA about a week ago

about my not being called for jury duty since April 11 despite the fact that I'm at 80%. Up till then it was every day and more. I have yet to receive a response. I'm not holding my breath.

[dorkzilla]

20. I just rechecked my inbox

Last time I served was March 28th (not April 11th as I previously stated...that was the result of a very rare alert). I was on several a day for a while there...

[Donkees]

34. They have been disabling it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125910326

[LiberalElite]

44. my loss of jury private.

is bullshit. The last jury I was on involved another Sanders supporter and I voted to hide. They just don't want us to have ANY say in what they call a "system."

[merrily]

48. Thing is, your donation is supposed to increase your chances of serving on a jury. So,

if they take that away, seems as though there should at be at least a partial refund.

[dorkzilla]

57. Guess its a good thing that I tripled the amount I gave here to give to JPR.

I still don't see how I fit into the criteria for revocation of jury participation. But it's Skinner's place so, hey ho.

[TheFarS1de]

24. I have had the same issue ....

Not a 100% but I used to occasionally get called up ... nothing now for over 2 months . The farce continues .

[Donkees]

35. They have been disabling it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125910326

[dorkzilla]

37. Interesting

I don't know how I fit the criteria Skinner cited, but whatevz...

[xloadiex]

55. I am 86% eligible

And I have not been called since March either. I've never had a post alerted on or hidden.

[merrily]

33. FWIW, I get called often.

[dorkzilla]

36. Called what, exactly?

[merrily]

42. For one thing, some faithless hussy called me a faithless hussy not long ago.

I would have reported it to HOF, but I think I got banned for trying to defend OS.

[dorkzilla]

43. Oooh, what a hussy!!!!

[merrily]

46. Don't try to kiss up, missy.

Just sayin'

[dorkzilla]

54. Harumph

YOU started it. Hussy.

[TBF]

39. I'm still being called as well

pretty much daily. FWIW, it takes a lot for me to hide something & I rarely send alerts.

[LiberalArkie]

14. Here is the link where I found the above link

http://www.discussionist.com/1015825895

[LiberalElite]

17. Hey - we're

persona non grata just like Juan!

[rurallib]

58. haven't been over to DI for a long time

thanks for the reminder why I stay away.

[n2doc]

18. The phrase "lie down with dogs, get up with fleas" seems apropro... n/t

[LiberalArkie]

22. I think the jury system could be fixed by allowing only 1 alert to be issued by a person per day.

And to put the alerters name on the result if it is to hide the post.

[TheFarS1de]

25. And one of the worst offenders cries foul

"H" doesn't only stand for Hillary

[TBF]

30. At least he told us what's going on -

I can respect that.

I have a feeling I will have to leave after convention. That is ok, we all have to do what is best for each of us (realizing that I live in TX - aka hell - and no one I support is going to get elected to anything down here so if I want to protest vote I will).

I do think the mod system was much better (and I say that as someone who joined in 2008 and never moderated at this site).

I don't have a problem with the admins, just don't agree with them on their candidate.

Take care, all.

[Waiting For Everyman]

40. Wow!

That post is what you call pushing your luck.

And, be careful what you ask for.

[abelenkpe]

41. Wow

That was ironic.

[davidpdx]

49. The truth is that particular poster was well as some of their friends use to be good friends with me

before throwing me under the bus, by claiming I didn't fully support Obama. The shit they make up stinks so bad it makes the town dump smell like a rose garden. They are two-faced liars.

I know...I know...tell me what you really think about them. Well the TOS prevents me from doing that.