Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumToday was a rough day. But it doesn't change the future.
You have slime bucket Roberta Lange ignoring a legally put forth call for a vote on a motion. Instead of obeying the convention rules, she walks right out of the room!
And this hands the Nevada caucus over to Hillary - illegally, and with a total disregard that if we didn't have the FBI in the pockets of the Clinton Family, Ms Lange could be indicted for voter suppression. This felony charge is in the US Civil code and involves a fine of $ 10,000 and a year in prison or both! But usually an individual has to get someone in the FBI to go after the criminal who was the perp.
Back in 2004, I got exactly nowhere the day I tried to get the FBI after a voter suppressing County Employee, and it probably won't happen in Nevada in 2016. However, if someone who was witness to the event does call on the FBI, I suggest they not give up and keep asking "Could I talk to your Supervisor?" when refused by lower level FBI agents, until they talk to the top official at the FBI, if necessary.
But putting that all aside, the thing is, nothing has changed.
Hillary Clinton is still facing karmic retribution.
Karmic Retribution occurred once before in my Lifetime,.
Remember Mandela's ascension into office? "Logically speaking" Mandela should never have gotten that top spot in South Africa. But it happened.
And it is now the turn of all of us who really want a return to True Democracy to create the Ripples that become the Wave that become a Bernie Presidency.The Collective Manifestation of every man woman and child whose lives have been ripped asunder by the neo cons, all of us will be pining for having what is needed to happen on such levels of intensity that it will happen.
I am planning on making my way to Philadelphia, and to be part of the Million Person March on Philly. i was too young to go to the Democratic Convention in 1968, and these days I often feel too old to go outside and work in the garden. But come hell or high water, I will be there.
http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/nevada-democratic-convention-what-happened-roberta-lange-delegates-election-fraud-videos-recount-denied/
Bernin4U
(812 posts)Philly's gonna be a hoot. My guess is that Lil Debbie has about 2000 Guard out there in armored trucks.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Philly '16 is going to make Chicago '68 look like a day at Disneyland.
bjo59
(1,166 posts)before I get back into the country from being out in the wilderness without phone or electricity for almost a month. Not only can't I go, I can't even get any news about it as it's happening.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Watching nothing but Liverpool matches at the local pub. I will be happily ignorant; i can't take the stress of watching the charade.
Bernin4U
(812 posts)They allow epl there?
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)All my cousins are rabid Liverpool fans and when I go "home" I spend a fair amount of time watching epl matches in pubs, whether I'm in Clare, Galway or Wexford.
Not sure I'd be watching any premier league games in Derry though...
Bernin4U
(812 posts)people I've met here seemed to be somewhat anti-English.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)My family is in the "Free State" and in my experience there is very little animosity toward English people there, in spite of the fact that we all have old-school Republicans in our family tree. I have friends from Derry (Catholic) that experienced a lot of violence from the RUC, even as very small children, so they're understandably anti-British. Plus their nation is, from a Catholic standpoint at any rate, still being occupied by a foreign oppressor so I get it.
I have a LOT of friends and family in England as well and I've always been intensely interested in English history and architecture. I love it there (i just visited again in March) so you'd be hard pressed to hear me say anything negative about the English or England. I was with some chums touring around Dorset and they told me I was an embarrassment and an enigma - a Yank who knew as much (or more in some cases) about their history than they did. More than once I've been asked if I was Canadian because of this.
I do get teased a lot by my aunts and uncles for spending "too much time in England and not enough in Ireland".
I find the Irish that tend to be rabidly anti-English are Irish-Americans, at least with the Boston and NYC-area Irish-Americans; they funneled a lot of money to the IRA in the 70's and 80's.
bjo59
(1,166 posts)The goal of any totalitarian system is to, well, make the system total. One of the goals is to make people believe that there is no outside to that system and become passive in response to that "fact." Never!
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)The goal of any totalitarian system is to, well, make the system total.
Great thinking, there.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)truedelphi! if it wasn't clear across the country and i wasn't such a grumpy arthritic 64 year old, i would consider being there. we share a similar righteous fervor for getting bernie elected and supporting the revolution
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)I'd be only so much used up road kill.
And everyone I know is a Bernie Supporter too. Even people I know who were totally enthralled with Hill just to or three years ago have come to see the light.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)If he would sue these rabid Clinton supporters and cost THEM a TON of money, you can bet the next state convention chair will watch their p's and q's before trying to steal delegates. It has to be known that it will cost them a LOT OF MONEY, PERSONALLY - or every chair in every state going forward will do the same thing! NIP-IT-IN-THE-BUD!
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
Bernin4U
(812 posts)Im sure a few of us can find a dollar or 27 to help out with that effort.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)They all need to know this fraud is going to cost them financially or they'll never stop.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
Bernin4U
(812 posts)They can commit political, uh, faux pax all day (one can't call it suicide anymore, unless they have about 100 lives), without a care.
And maybe it really doesn't matter, since the R's can't seem to figure out what to do with themselves these days either. So maybe the D's can get away with supplying this free huge arsenal of ammunition. Or maybe not. It's pretty hard to imagine Trump just letting it go by.
BerninInBama
(27 posts)for making me feel proud to be an American for the first time in my life.
Before the Nevada travesty, I had planned to be in Philly only for a day but now I will be there through the entire convention. I now know how the Revolutionary War patriots felt, the abolitionists, the suffragettes, and the people involved in the civil rights movement felt. I refuse to tolerate a dictatorship and the oligarchy's control over our country and world. I am willing to do whatever it takes to make Bernie president and am willing to risk arrest or even my life for this cause.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)How is it a valid Party Primary when the Party Leaders, all of whom are neo cons wearing the label of FDR and JFK as cover, dictate what is and isn't counted for a candidate? And the way they have handled things, it has all been slanted towards Hillary.
I too feel that my life is on the line. If they take my life from me in Philly, so be it!