Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forum"You are suffering economically because you didn't achieve high enough in life"
I bet that's what affluent Hillary supporters believe about the bottom 80%.
http://inthesetimes.com/features/listen-liberal-thomas-frank-democratic-party-elites-inequality.html
If you look at the last few Democratic presidents, Bill Clinton and Obama, and Hillary Clinton as well, their lives are a tale of educational achievement. This is what opened up the doors of the world to them. Its a party of who people who have gotten where they are by dint of educational accomplishment.
This produces a set of related ideas. When the Democrats, the party of the professionals, look at the economic problems of working-class people, they always see an educational problem, because they look at working class people and say, Those people didnt do what I did: go and get advanced degrees, go to the right college, get the high SAT scores and study STEM or whatever.
That was an essential point that I try to make in Listen Liberal: that there is no solidarity in a meritocracy. A meritocracy really is every man for himself.
Dont get me wrong. People at the top of the meritocracy, professionals, obviously have enormous respect for one another. That is the nature of professional meritocracy. They have enormous respect for the people at the top, but they feel very little solidarity for people beneath them who dont rise in the meritocracy.
Bonus quote:
And remember, Kahn was a very important figure in the Carter administration. The way that he describes unions is incorrecthes actually describing professionals. Professionals are a protected class that you cant do anything abouttheyre protected by the laws of every state that dictate who can practice in these fields. Its funny that he projects that onto organized labor and holds them responsible for the sins of another group.
This is a Democrat in an administration that is actually not very liberal. This is the administration that carried out the first of the big deregulations. This is the administration that had the great big capital gains tax cuts, that carried out the austerity plan that saw the Federal Reserve jack its interest rates sky high. They clubbed the economy to the ground in order to stop wage inflation, in which workers, if they have enough power, can keep demanding higher wages. It was incredible.
The Democratic Party has been invaded by affluent moderate Republicans and they are the ones that need to leave the party, not the progressives. I am thus willing to say that professional Democrats that are Hillary supporters are accomplices of the 1%.
missingthebigdog
(1,233 posts)Higher education is a HUGE part of Bernie's platform- how does that emphasis gel with the assertion that those with educational achievements cannot be in solidarity with those who have not achieved academically?
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Second, everyone believes in education, but what's being said here is that professionals don't believe in more economic equality, they believe that you still must achieve higher educationally if you are suffering economically, rather than that people deserve to be able to live well even if they can't achieve a masters or PhD degree or have profitable talents. They are very much wedded to capitalist ideology and the puritan work ethic just like conservatives and thus frown at socialist ideas and don't really care about things that help the lower classes.
missingthebigdog
(1,233 posts)And it is a GOP weapon.
Sure, it's dressed up for current times, but it is the same argument. It attempts to separate "professionals" from the "working class," when in reality, the real divide is between the investment class and the rest of us.
There was a time when it could be argued that a higher education wasn't necessary- factory workers were making as much as lawyers, and they didn't even need a diploma, let alone a college education. But when those jobs were shipped off to someone who would do them for much less, those workers had nowhere to turn.
A college education continues to be the best way to "move up" in economic status. Denigrating those who make that effort is carrying water for the GOP. As long as we are divided against one another, they are safe.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)"Millenials take on the world is fascinating. Just a few years ago, people thought of them as very different. But now theyre coming out of college with enormous student debt, and theyre discovering that the job market is casualized and Uberized. The work that they do is completely casual. The idea of having a middle-class lifestyle in that situation is completely off the table for them.
Every time I think about these people, it burns me up. It makes me so angry what weve done to them as a society. It really gives the lie to Democratic Party platitudes about the world an education will open up for you. That path just doesnt work anymore. Millenials can see that in their own lives very plainly."
To quote Bowie: "these children that you spit on, they're quoite aware of what they're going through."
surrealAmerican
(11,361 posts)And these children that you spit on
As they try to change their worlds
Are immune to your consultations
They're quite aware of what they're going through
...
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Paul Krugman, one of the most famous Democratic economists, predicted this back in 1996 about the next 100 years looking to the year 2096:
In the 1990's, everyone believed that education was the key to economic success. A college degree, even a postgraduate degree, was essential for anyone who wanted a good job as one of those ''symbolic analysts.''
So enrollment in colleges and universities has dropped almost two-thirds since its peak at the turn of the century. The prestigious universities coped by reverting to an older role. Today a place like Harvard is, as it was in the 19th century, more of a social institution than a scholarly one -- a place for children of the wealthy to refine their social graces and befriend others of their class.
Bernin4U
(812 posts)...if only in an entirely circular way: You're poor when you're not able to achieve enough wealth.
It's like Romney saying he wants everyone in America to be rich. Sure, let's all just have a bigger slice of the pie. (Don't worry that there's almost none left after my friends and I take our share first.)
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Bernin4U
(812 posts)A handful of execs, a few managers, and a pool of tens of thousands of contractors on call, from all around the world.
Min wage? FICA taxes? That's all in the past, because Non-exempt employees are a thing of the past. Who needs em, when all your work needs can be crowdsourced? Often for a fraction of the cost of an employee.
Yeah, millennials are pretty much fucked.