The 1968 Democratic Convention

[LiberalArkie]

[djean111]

1. I believe this is what is planned for Philadelphia.

Just think - brown-shirts at a caucus! The DNC probably has great plans for suppression in Philly. Those police forces have not been militarized for the fun of it. Or maybe they have.

[RKP5637]

5. And look what the organized militarized police did to OWS. It will likely repeat. None

want their gravy train disrupted.

[JDPriestly]

16. As in 1968, that would mean defeat for Democrats.

I don't think that will happen.

Perhaps if Hillary tries to go it alone and does not include and embrace and love the Bernie supporters, Bernie will go it to the national election with his own campaign. That would relieve the pressure on Hillary's Democrats.

Better for Hillary to treat Bernie supporters with respect. After all, there is no Viet Nam War at stake. Kids aren't dying in swamps today.

There are important issues at stake. We could have 1968 again, but only if Hillary proves herself incapable of leading.

Nevada was a bad omen, but Hillary, if she wants to lead the Democrats to a victory in November, has to find a way to be inclusive and respectful of those who disagree with her. This is a test for Hillary.

If Bernie wins the nomination, no problem. He will show respect for Hillary and be inclusive.

The only risk is if Hillary thinks she has won and can win in November without Bernie's supporters. She can't.

[djean111]

18. Bernie has already been denied putting any of his folks on any committees, from what I have

read. Looks like the plan is to just have Bernie give a little speech, tell us to support Hillary, and then go away, leaving Hillary his supporters, his organization, and his campaign funds. Not going to go well, and that has nothing to do with Bernie. I think the convention, with Hillary as the nominee, is going to be a smug and contemptuous disaster. No pandering and insincere speech is going to fix that. Bill, doddering out with false bonhomie - not going to fix that.

No, there are no kids dying in Vietnam today. But there are kids dying - for no good reason except money and power - in the Middle East. And here at home, from the effects of poverty and no health care. Hillary is not going to do anything but make that worse, IMO. The young people I talk to - they are quite aware of how the trade deals mean that they will likely get out of college with crushing debt, not be able to find a decent job, and not be able to buy homes. They know the deck is stacked against them, and they also know that the Clintons are card sharps. They KNOW that.

There is real anger about the blithe and contemptuous assertion that real change is not possible, is not going to happen. They KNOW the types of changes that the GOP will be only too happy to "grudgingly" work on with Hillary. They KNOW they have mandated insurance with ever-increasing premiums and big co-pays and out-of-pocket, and that it will only get worse.

They KNOW that Bill Clinton conspired with Newt to privatize Social Security, and that this is a Third Way objective, and that Hillary is the Third Way. They KNOW jobs have been leaving the country for years, and they know the Establishment is responsible for that, and has every intention of accelerating that. They know that everything will be globalized downwards, regulations will be tossed, etc., but they know they will also be exhorted, as AMERICANS, flags waving, to die and be killed in the Middle East, to pay taxes that go right to corporations and bombs and bullets.

So, hopefully, all of this anger will be used to accomplish something great. But nothing great is going to be accomplished by telling them they must support Hillary. Because they will not. Hillary as nominee is not only a coup for Hillary, it is a coup for the Third Way, for Wall Street, for corporations, for the MIC. They know that. So do the Republicans who support Hillary - just think, everything they always wanted, and a DINO to do it for them.

Trump is a Pied Piper. Bernie is not the Pied Piper. He is a harbinger. The establishment does not get that. And all the scorn directed at Bernie and his supporters will not gain Hillary one iota of support. She will have to out-cheat the GOP.

[JDPriestly]

19. Excellent post!

I have an idea as to how we might be able to change that this time.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280197076

If the Democratic Party does not give us a voice, let's make a place for our own voice and let's start to talk to the world by talking to each other in that place -- on the internet.

The media is impossibly pro-Clinton.

Andrea Mitchell is a Clintonian disgrace. She will go down in history as the image of the corruption behind Hillary.

Let's make our own Clinton-free space on the internet. It think it can be done. And we can spread the word about it on the internet.

This can be the beginning of a movement to turn Congress into the progressive place for new ideas and clean government that we want it to be.

[leveymg]

2. It's back . . . it never went away, and traces back at least another quarter century

to the dawn of the Cold War and the embrace of McCarthyism by the Rightwing of the Democratic Party and the breakup of the New Deal coalition at the end of WW2.

[Merryland]

3. I just watched it - powerful

and so reflective of the schism that is happening now & undoubtedly will continue to Philadelphia. The status quo versus change.

[RKP5637]

4. Thanks for posting, also just showed it to a number of people. n/t

[cantbeserious]

6. Thank You For Sharing

eom

[thereismore]

7. There were 6,000-7,000 demonstrators then. There will be more in Philly.

This documentary is absolutely heart-breaking. I have no illusions about what the party is going to do now.

[LiberalArkie]

8. Considering back then information was spread by word of mouth or local hand out papers

Now there is social media.

[thereismore]

9. They had a big, huge issue back then - a hot war in VietNam, and draft. Now the war is fought

by professional soldiers and the public does not feel it as intimately. Climate change is arguably an even bigger issue than war, but it does not bleed (not here). I am not trying to be flippant about war or anything else. I do not think we have a hot issue like they did in 1968. The establishment is going to win this one too, unless Hills gets indicted.

[LiberalArkie]

10. Probably correct. Instead of the war, the kids now are seeing that people have declared war on them

personally by the price of college and housing. They can not ever see themselves being where their parents are in life. But back then getting 6000 people across the country with only CBS, NBC, ABC news and deciding "for the hell of it" to go to Chicago. That was something.

I think that they will nominate her anyway even if she is in lockup somewhere. Or pull an Humphrey and just choose someone already in the circle of power because the "rubes" out there will show up and vote for whoever we tell them to. That is really the story of 1968. There were 2 good candidates McGovern and McCarthy. Either one could have won. But they were not insiders.

[thereismore]

11. I agree, except I still believe if she is indicted she won't be nominated. If she is, Pres. Humphrey

could give her a few tips on how to win the GE...

[LiberalArkie]

12. It is all in the hands of the FBI. But Democrats have been known to vote for dead man

for mayor once. Facet the people who are easily persuaded in their thinking are Republicans I think the rest are Democrats or Independents.

[LiberalElite]

13. Kicking nt

[Live and Learn]

14. K&R nt

[hopemountain]

15. the potential for violence is the antithesis of

bernie's campaign/platform. the revolution has to be nonviolent. where to channel all of the anger?

let us begin, now! we, the youth and all of the bernie's supporters can stop supporting the corporations that are funneling the millions of dollars to the dnc and hillary's campaign. there must be a list somewhere.

the potential for even a peaceful demonstration and march will be targeted by terrorists and disruptors with the worst intentions. innocent persons for freedom and democracy will be targeted and hurt - or worse. we must avert the potential for carnage.

it will be uglier than we can imagine.

in a good way, hopemountain

[deepestblue]

17. The world needs a break

For a long, long time.

ENOUGH with the U.S. led pillaging of other lands for profit.

ENOUGH.

#Bernie

[winter is coming]

20. Ah, yes. The Party rammed through a candidate, alienating a lot of

(mostly young) voters and it cost us the White House. Let's play that movie again!!