Can you imagine what it would be like to hold an adult political conversation?

[grasswire]

Here on DU? With liberals and progressives free to express themselves about the news of the day, about issues and personalities and so on, and without bitter, sarcastic, juvenile, insulting attacks from other members? And especially without paid trolls whose main tasks are to deflect and disturb?

I have been on that kind of a message board before. Everyone was interesting, and civil, and goal oriented. There was a team spirit and camaraderie. We were liberals and progressives, and we actually got things done.

Wouldn't it be grand to have harmony prevail?

[TDale313]

1. Wouldn't that be great? n/t

[grasswire]

3. I feel sometimes here as if I am wading through wet cement...

...trying to find useful exchange of information. The drag that the trolls and authoritarians and the third-wayers put on the place is heavy and ugly.

[silvershadow]

2. k&R nt

[bjo59]

4. Yes it would! I only started visiting here in March and I'm already at the point of

not feeling very good about it. The juvenile, insulting remarks have an extremely dispiriting effect after only a short while. It actually seems to be getting increasingly worse even over just the short time I've been on here. It would be grand to have informed discussion prevail. I don't mind people expressing anger over the policies and records of a candidate that they do not support; however, the majority of the juvenile, insulting attacks have nothing to do with the policy positions or political records of candidates. Reminds me of those "reality TV" type daytime talk shows that used to be all the rage in the 1990s.

[corkhead]

5. sadly, the words Liberal, Progressive, and Democrat are no longer interchangeable

The Republicans who weren't crazy enough to survive their party's purge took over our party.

[TDale313]

7. Yep. Exactly what happened.

And those of us actually on the left are being pushed out to make room for them cause the Tent ain't quite that big.

[corkhead]

8. Contemplate the fact that Presidents became term limited to make sure we never had another Roosevelt

[Hydra]

6. We're just a microcosm of the bigger event

The party is having an identity crisis, and will be changed irrevocably when the convention comes along. DU will not survive in current form either.

What we were was awesome. What came after "winning" destroyed that.

[Frustratedlady]

9. It doesn't take me very long to scan the subject lines to find something to peruse.

I ignore all comments on both sides against the opposing candidates because I know many of them are being made out of anger and without a lot of thought.

DU needs a "time-out" room where some could go to cool off. Across the nation, school's out in the next few weeks and I think the sandpiles should be closed on DU, as well. Take a vacation from the nasties and come back prepared to join together again with one goal...elect a Democratic POTUS.

[grasswire]

10. I guess we leave them to their world -- afraid of ideas, of words, of their shadows.

Censoring, censoring, censoring. Stalking and chasing down any "contrary" thoughts.

[agracie]

11. That's why the gods created Jackpine Radicals - jackpineradicals.org

[Bernin4U]

12. Wha? Plenty of good discussion

...among all the homies right here.