Bernie wants to send you to college for free...

[Triana]

[Jennylynn]

1. 'Nuff said?

[Wellstone ruled]

2. You get the Grades,

you get the School. California had this system until Regan and Prop 13 blew it up.

[Triana]

3. +1

GODDAMNED Raygun - I'm old enough to remember that.

[Art_from_Ark]

21. Reagan didn't seem to think too highly of college students

[libdem4life]

4. I proudly benefitted from that system.

[Wellstone ruled]

6. And this why Cali has such a strong

economy. And the Rethugs knew they had to destroy system in order to enslave a large portion of the people. Education threatens the Rethug party more than any single idea.

[libdem4life]

7. So true. Kind of like the military...serves as a handy, if not only,

option for what used to be called the Middle Class. Although I must admit, if the soldiers get back in one piece and without mental problems, there is a path to an education.

Thank the gods I didn't have to risk my life to get my education.

[Wellstone ruled]

8. Yes,Vets should have a free ride

at any School they qualify for. Most did until Nixon and his administration went all in with the Student Loan theft thing. Old Tricky Dick really took care of his Campaign Buddies with this and later they screwed all the Student Loans.

[libdem4life]

9. I almost forgot that the Republicans shouted down any educational

benefits for their cannon fodder some time back. Is it still that way? Vets have to indenture themselves to the Corporates now? If so, that's double jeopardy, IMO.

[Wellstone ruled]

10. And most of these Vets

are still voting for Might is Right Rethugs.

[libdem4life]

11. Oh no. The Rs have a pretty good scheme going on.

The ones that refused to help them with their education? What's wrong with this picture? Yeah, I know, it was a rhetorical question because I already know the answer.

[Wellstone ruled]

13. In our little Community of 1350 homes.

70% of our residents are Retired Military or Widowers of Retired Military,and the other small percentage are just plain Retired . As you might guess,this is TeaBilly Heaven. Never have to worry about a crime spree . And yes,just love to stir the pot.

[Baobab]

22. Germany educates Americans for free in English

And some evidently decide to stay there.

[Wellstone ruled]

23. Yes they do.

Our Nephew went study for one Semester and stayed for two plus years completing his Degree.

[Baobab]

12. Education in Califrnia universities has not been free since the Reagan years.

Also, the WTO GATS- signed by Bill Clinton in 1994, allegedly prohibits giving people a free education. TiSA, pending and almost completed in Geneva unambiguously prohibits free education and it threatens the very existence of free public education according to the top organization representing all 850 universities and colleges in the EU. Thats because the US is pushing this dismantling of public education in TiSA unless all similar services in a country are free. I can't think of a country that has only free schools, so that exemption never ever seems to apply. It makes absolutely no sense.

[Wellstone ruled]

14. And we saw Pearson Educational Corp

take over our School Testing and later with the help of Arnie Duncan many of our Schools are now Charter Schools run by Pearson entities.

[Baobab]

15. http://www.eua.be/Libraries/publication/EUA_Statement_TTIP.pdf <<< Read me

http://www.eua.be/Libraries/publication/EUA_Statement_TTIP.pdf

See bullet item #1

[Wellstone ruled]

18. Thanks for the info.

Had the Pearson Education Group USA as a B to B Client in the late nineties. Watched it morph into what is today. And yes,it is Global Nightmare,and the bottom line is,they as a Corporation are dismantling our National Public Educational System as we speak. And the replacement is a Fee Based Privatized Educational System which will only benefit the wealthy.

Today,there was a story on the Bloomberg about Brazil and their Privatized Educational System and how it is failing their Country. And how it plays into the Impeachment garbage going on today. Ignorance is not bliss.

[libdem4life]

17. We need to prop up the Schools for Profit. Along with the Prisons,

Social Security, etc. Before long they'll charge us for making a police call/report or calling the fire department when our house is burning. FD rolls in and asks for your credit card number...first.

[Baobab]

16. A six year degree is now the minimum in most fields and eight years in the sciences

except some engineering disciplines, and computer science..

There six is enough to get a decent job. or the equivalent in real world experience.

Most of the sciences require a PhD.

People with two and four year degrees are losing jobs at a fairly rapid pace. Do people realize that?

[libdem4life]

19. I think they don't. A college degree is now the minimum even for

lower end jobs. It is the equivalent of a high school diploma.

But I must say, that even as it is now, the level of education is far and away below what it used to be. So, it's likely about the same amount of knowledge...just takes 16 years and handily cuts out a large population of young folk.

Go Bernie. At least now they know they're being ripped off. And even if he doesn't get elected president, he surely has made a name for himself and lots of us will continue to work for the effort. It's a Sea Change in the Social/Cultural Contract. Not just the political world.

[Baobab]

20. Level of education is not lower.

The skill level required to be essential has been rising steadily.

Ten or fifteen years ago it was said that a college diploma (a four year degree) was the equivalent of what a high school degree was in the 60s, enough education to get a decent job.

Now the bar has risen even further. In 30 years we'll likely have self-aware computers that can do virtually all jobs people have except those reqiring an amazing level of skill.

Long before then very few people will need to work to support all the productivity the economy has today.

[TIME TO PANIC]

5. K & R!