I just don't believe that fence-mending will be possible.

[mac56]

Bridge-building, burying the hatchet, whatever you would like to call it.

I'm not so jaded as to think that NO effort will be made. I also believe at least some of them will be sincere. Whether they'd be successful is a more dubious issue.

That said -- should Clinton win the nomination -- what do you think her followers will do to reach out and try to build unity with Sanders followers?

What can we expect to see and hear from the Hillary team?

[Shemp Howard]

1. Hillary will absolutely have to extend an olive branch.

Mere words on Hillary's part won't do. The usual "he ran a great campaign, now let's come together" - that won't do. Hillary will have to show that she really respects Bernie's positions, and really respects Bernie's supporters.

Perhaps Bernie - if he loses the nomination - should be given veto power when it comes to picking the VP. Just a thought.

[yourpaljoey]

8. Hillary lives in a bubble... she well say: "Who else you gonna vote for?"

This will drive voters away en masse.
The slaughter shall ensue.

[LibDemAlways]

2. I've read posts on here that basically

suggested that Bernie supporters could pound sand. Hillary, herself, when asked this week, offered no olive branches, only a recitation of her vote total.

What's been lacking this election cycle is respect for the other side. From the get-go, the Hillary crowd has been treating Bernie like a fly buzzing the room who just needs a good swat. Rather than debate the issues civilly on this forum, I've seen him characterized on DU as a senile old man and "grandpa." That one's rich since, lest anyone forget, Hillary is a grandmother, too.

Undoubtedly, what we'll be hearing from the Hillary camp is Trump Trump Trump. Someone here yesterday suggested that it was our patriotic "duty" to vote Hillary to keep Trump out of the White House. All of the fear mongering and suggestions that I'm not a good citizen if I don't automatically vote for her won't do it for me.

I think one way they could mitigate some of the damage is by announcing a clearly to the left VP choice, but I don't see that happening. At that point the Dems would be sending mixed messages, and I don't think Hillary would want to be associated with truly progressive ideas. That's what it comes down to. The Hillary team has a fundamental problem. In order to keep Bernie supoorters in the fold, they'll have to make significant policy concessions and mean it -- not sure something I'd ever trust her to do. If she is the nominee, it will be an uphill battle against huge chunks of the electorate -- R's of course, the I's who've overwhelmingly supported Bernie, and half of her own party. It will be an interesting fall.

[sarge43]

14. I don't think a to the left VP would help

VPs are only as effective as POTUS allows them to be and Clinton clearly does not want to share. Her VP will attend funerals and give the occasional pep talk to quiet the lefties; otherwise will not sit in on the policy decisions.

[MuseRider]

3. Bridges were burned a LONG time ago

with all the lies.

Too many years of it, not just the campaign.

Between having no credibility on fighting for what we believe in, fighting for everything we do not believe in and her "friends" I am just not likely to be wooed.

[cantbeserious]

4. This Citizen Divorced HRC Long Ago - Reconciliation Is No Longer A Possibility

eom

[moriah]

32. Welcome to DU!

Enjoy your stay...

[Warren DeMontague]

34. ... I got nothin'

[moriah]

36. I'm just traditional, and had to get it in...

Love you guys in this group, even if it's not mine.

[Warren DeMontague]

37. I came here from a jury

I have to believe I'm not seeing the results yet, just because people are coming up with far wittier comments than I did.

[moriah]

38. Here were the results that brought me:

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[Warren DeMontague]

39. Well, I hate to toot my own horn, really I do

but mine was the best.

[moriah]

43. I was #1.

First!

[Warren DeMontague]

44. Clearly not a lot of lengthy deliberation in the jury room.

I honestly have to wonder if half the "trump" people are engaged in some sort of postmodern performance art, like a Tony Clifton shtick. I hope so, but I fear they're for real.

[Duckhunter935]

49. I alerted, one of my few

[moriah]

50. Okay, so.. second!

[Duckhunter935]

52. Lol

[In_The_Wind]

41. Yup. I was #6

[In_The_Wind]

33. Nope

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[Duckhunter935]

40. Gone, great job MIRT

[In_The_Wind]

42. They get all the fun.

[moriah]

46. Ever serve?

I still think people should take up a collection for an "intoxicant of your choIce" fund after. But barring that... praise be to MIRT!

This Hillary supporter now graciously bows out of your forum. Just here to see a troll properly greeted, I assure you.

[In_The_Wind]

47. Three terms

The DUers of MIRt deserve all the thanks we can offer.

[moriah]

48. +3. :)

[moriah]

45. MIR rules the world. We should send then lots of booze.

I say this after serving only one, non-election term.

[marble falls]

54. And maybe a little hemp, too? Just sayin'.......

[moriah]

55. Whatever their pleasure :)

[LaurenG]

5. Please don't expect anything, just be happy in the best way that you know how.

Whoever wins will need to get to work trying to bring everyone in. I think I'll feel about Mrs. Clinton the same as I did about Bush. I won't ever like it but my life will go on and I'm determined to be happy in that.

I will feel sad that we'll have to wait another another 8 years to get this GDamned show on the road though.

Here's to Bernie and my hope that he can still pull this off.

[Kittycat]

10. 4yrs if that

No one will allow this farce to continue on that long. We'll all be bankrupt.

[LaurenG]

18. That is hopeful!

[PFunk1]

6. I agree. The time for mending is long since past

Too much toxic water has been spilled to prevent it from happening. And any effort to do so by the Clinton camp will be seen by many as insincere-or worst. So now it's time to just accept the results. Move on past and, if possible learn any lessons from them. Though at this point the way things are going I think a civil divorce between the corporate/DINO and Liberal/Progressive/FDR factions should be on everyone's plans now.

[Babel_17]

7. Her and her aides need to come out of the FBI criminal investigation in good shape

Her and her aides need to come out of the FBI criminal investigation in good shape for any outreach by Secretary Clinton to "feeling the bern" Sanders supporters have great effect.

A bad report will confirm the worst suspicions regard a Clinton presidency.

And not just for Sanders supporters.

On a closely related topic, this is why Clinton wants Sanders gone. She wants every wagon circled around her. She wants the party, and the nation, to have no option to Trump other than her. Quite frankly, imo she's counting on that scenario in order to tip the DOJ's scales in her favor.

If Sanders was gone it would arguably be much more likely Trump would win if our defacto nominee were to be indicted/had her aides indicted and looked culpable.

If Clinton dropped out before the convention it would only be a (big) bump in the road for the party. Sanders would be highly credible as our nominee. Clinton having to drop out after being nominated is unthinkable for the party, and Clinton is likely banking on that, imo.

[yourpaljoey]

9. I would love to hear Hill's inner thoughts on this

Does she believe she will not be indicted because she is
above that sort of thing. Sadly, we know what she did.

[Kittycat]

11. I read last night that Bill spoke somewhere and

Said the FBI investigation was just a game. Who in their right mind would just go poking sticks like that when they're under investigation? If nothing else, they're going to agitate the very people that are having to spend their time working on this.

[yourpaljoey]

12. Wow. Plenty of evidence of serious crimes... does he truly believe this is just a game?

[Kittycat]

13. Here's the thread.

GDP warning.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511873229

[yourpaljoey]

15. I see, this is a game. Now I know. :)

Hill needs to hide him until further notice.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

53. Wow... Bill has completely lost his mind.

[Babel_17]

16. Might be figuring there's nothing left to lose

So call it a joke and a sham now, and then if the DOJ takes action call it a partisan witch hunt.

I'm old enough to remember a Nixon supporter going on TV and just laughing away to a reporters probing questions during the time of the Watergate break-in investigation. A stout jovial fellow with a beard, semi-prominent at the time, maybe somebody knows who I mean. He was very good at looking unconcerned.

[DamnYankeeInHouston]

17. I'm sure they will think "Oh, we better be nice to them now, but it won't help.

One of the best things Benie gas done is to shine a spot light on the whole crooked, rigged system. The two party system is an illusionary farce. I have been a life long, proud, liberal Democrat. I cannot, however, support an organization that stoops to repeated cheating to win. I cannot support a candidate that is phony and surrounded by a cloud of scandal and lies. I cannot help put my country in the hands of a polluting, exploitive war hawk. I cannot support a party that is so short sighted it will put the weaker candidate in the general election and risk letting Trump and the fascists win power. I cannot respect a party that destroys its own future by alienating the large enthusiastic crowds of young voters. I may be an Indepent in the future. Bernie has enlightened us about our choices and our voice. He is the better candidate and, certainly, the better person.

[Capt.Rocky300]

19. Right on as we used to say.......

[mak3cats]

20. What can we expect to see and hear from the Hillary team?

Lip service, lies, and whatever is playing well with the focus groups that week. In other words, nothing that can be believed. If she's the Dem nominee, we will definitely lose in November. Bet on it.

[PowerToThePeople]

21. Does it matter?

I have known for more than 4 years now that they are not on the same team as I am.

I share a big tent with right wingers, but I will not dance with them.

[Phlem]

22. Agreed. For me there is no fence mending.

They are a completely different party than I would vote for, period.

[LovingA2andMI]

23. Not Interested in the Least...

In Repairing The Fence. Let It Stay on the Ground.

[jeff47]

24. They will offer nothing but screaming about Trump.

And they will be astounded that screaming about Trump only gets people to not vote for Trump.

They really have no idea how to do the second step, get people to vote for Clinton.

[silvershadow]

25. Depends. This is going to be an interesting next few weeks, that's for sure. I would hold off

on the pessimism for now if you are able. Sending you good vibes!

[greymouse]

26. No way.

What could Camp Weathervane say that would make me vote for a corrupt incompetent same old same old.

If Bernie is the Democratic nominee, I will vote for him. Otherwise, I will write him in or vote Green if he is the Green nominee. Maybe that will even be enough to throw the election into the Electoral College.

Promises and overtures mean nothing when they are based on lying and corruption and right wing policies du jour.

[Cassiopeia]

27. The beatings will continue

until morale improves.

I imagine that will he the outreach offered by Clinton supporters.

[yourpaljoey]

57. Well, it's a start; at least she will be offering something

[Duckhunter935]

30. We already

Are seeing that reaching out here with the many insulting posts

[djean111]

56. There is no olive branch that can induce me to vote for a Third Way Corporate warmonger.

And - they have no intention of offering anything, anyway - it would just be a blatant pandering lie.

[EdwardBernays]

58. Who cares what they do?

It's all bullshit.

If Sanders supporters start believing that Hillary's trustworthy I'd be surprised!