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I think that we were going to be able to stay until it was not possible for Bernie to win, (Original Post) LiberalArkie Apr 2016 OP
It won't be stopping any discussion of Bernie... CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2016 #1
If we have Skinner, why do we need a convention? Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #5
We won't be long - the Bernie group RobertEarl Apr 2016 #7
Well.......Skinner is in charge of DU. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2016 #8
It was sarcasm pointing out the double standard here. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #11
I hear ya! CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2016 #13
Well, yes. I'm kidding. Sort of. Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #14
I don't think he will anticipate the convention. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2016 #15
Thanks. Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #17
Timing of FBI report could throw a wrench in the works. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #18
That, and any number of other possibilities. nt Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #19
I just sent him another 30 Bucks Pharaoh Apr 2016 #2
Not the nominee yet! Bernie said tonight: bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #3
Yes, Bernie said after every state has a chance to vote. Big wins still coming his way ViseGrip Apr 2016 #4
Hmmm RobertEarl Apr 2016 #6
Interesting argument. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #12
Oh please lmbradford Apr 2016 #9
He/She isn't talking about stopping davidpdx Apr 2016 #16
Making another contribution beltanefauve Apr 2016 #10
He's in the race UNTIL THE CONVENTION - in_cog_ni_to Apr 2016 #20

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,635 posts)
1. It won't be stopping any discussion of Bernie...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:30 PM
Apr 2016

But rather only supporting the nominee.

And the date has not yet been set. Skinner will announce when we have a nominee, which will very likely be Hillary.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
5. If we have Skinner, why do we need a convention?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:38 PM
Apr 2016

Think of the $$$ we could save.

>>Skinner will announce when we have a nominee, which will very likely be Hillary. >>>

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
7. We won't be long - the Bernie group
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:41 PM
Apr 2016

DU will become the "Trump said what!!" forum.

I'm a gonna miss this group and you people. Thanks for the memories!

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,635 posts)
8. Well.......Skinner is in charge of DU.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:50 PM
Apr 2016

The convention is for the whole country, not just us.

You were kidding me, right?

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
11. It was sarcasm pointing out the double standard here.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:17 AM
Apr 2016

Skinner does own this site, and he can set his rules. However, since it's funded by the users, in sense his customers, it's a strange call to antagonize 85% of the posters here. If there's a purge, DU is going to lose a tremendous amount of valuable content and become nothing more than an echo chamber for the Jr High crowd.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,635 posts)
13. I hear ya!
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:36 AM
Apr 2016

And I don't think there will be a purge.

As long as we don't advocate for Republicans or candidates from other parties, we will be free to post here.

I believe the rules clearly state this.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
14. Well, yes. I'm kidding. Sort of.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:37 AM
Apr 2016

>>>Skinner will announce when we have a nominee, which will very likely be Hillary. >>>

The convention announces ( and determines) whether *the party* has a nominee.

But I'm a little unclear: has Skinner declared that he's going to anticipate the outcome of the convention and restrict ... in advance of the actual nominating vote... debate (HERE, on DU) over the merits of the candidates?



CaliforniaPeggy

(149,635 posts)
15. I don't think he will anticipate the convention.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:40 AM
Apr 2016

The debate over the candidates will go on, I suspect, until the convention picks a nominee.

That's my best guess.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
17. Thanks.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:54 AM
Apr 2016

He (Skinner) OUGHT not to anticipate a convention outcome. Regardless of "the math", whatever some posters and analysts mean by that term.

We have a nominee when there is a roll call vote, determining that, at the actual Democratic National Convention.

And not before.

What we have BEFORE that is "candidates".

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
18. Timing of FBI report could throw a wrench in the works.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:01 AM
Apr 2016

If Skinner declares Clinton the nominee early, and the FBI recommends prosecution prior to the convention, then Skinner has egg all over his face.
There's no reason to rush things prior to the convention...let the Jr High banshees screach all they want.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
3. Not the nominee yet! Bernie said tonight:
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:35 PM
Apr 2016
“The people in every state in this country should have the right to determine who they want as president NOT OVER TIL THE LIL BIRDIE SINGS>>...
 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
4. Yes, Bernie said after every state has a chance to vote. Big wins still coming his way
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:35 PM
Apr 2016

and he wants to total everything, (NY delegates are not actually awarded yet due to the fraud and audits.)
He wants to weigh everything and make OUR case, part of which Hillary is now tied to Trump.

Stupid voters? Stupid delegates? You should have heard the TYT tonight making the case to support Trump.

More than one panelist said with Trump, democrats get the house and senate in just two years. In four, we have a chance to elect another progressive. With Hillary we have the same old shit and more war, for another decade, along with no changes to house and senate.

Things that make you go hmmmm.....and after what has been said about Bernie and his supporters by the Clinton groups, and the hacking of databases and Facebook pages, I'm sure they won't mind, when it breaks for Trump. It changes the democratic party, as it'll be upside down with a loss, it changes the republican party upside down as well with a Trump win, we get the house and senate, and another chance in four years.

That was the talk on the TYT tonight's live coverage.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
6. Hmmm
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:39 PM
Apr 2016

Well, I won't ever support Trump, but that argument makes a lot of sense.

OTOH, we get Bernie we get congress back in 2018 and millions of young people surprised and amazed that the old farts actually can still think. And so they will join.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
12. Interesting argument.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:29 AM
Apr 2016

The major flaw I see is that if you overthink the tactical vote thing, you usually end up getting bitten in the ass. Unforeseen consequences and all that.
IMO, the better alternative is for everyone to vote their conscience in Nov. After that seek to expand the progressive movement, either as Democrats or as a third party. Build coalitions with other third parties, like the Greens. Get some candidates for House seats in 2018. Then challenge the incumbant POTUS in 2020, whoever it is. I suspect the country will be begging for change then.

lmbradford

(517 posts)
9. Oh please
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:04 AM
Apr 2016

If you were a true Bernie supporter, you wouldn't be talking about stopping. I need to be able to vote for this man in Nov or I don't have a candidate that I can support. People like me need everyone to help us elect this man. We have to stop pouting and get busy. We can still do this!!! Help or be quiet while we work.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
16. He/She isn't talking about stopping
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:50 AM
Apr 2016

They are talking about the deadline set by Skinner when basically we are forced to either support Clinton or stop posting here. Once Skinner sends the party unity message down then we have no choice here on DU. That being said there are other places to go now. I think there will be a lot of DU "refugees" fleeing for the safe haven website once that happens.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
20. He's in the race UNTIL THE CONVENTION -
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:31 AM
Apr 2016

Someone still has an INDICTMENT hanging over her head and is STILL under an FBI INVESTIGATION.

Only in America could someone being investigated by the FBI, be allowed to run for POTUS.

Bernie's not going anywhere.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

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