Why are so many Bernie supporters in GDP giving up?

[New Earth]

And in here?

Don't we still have a good number of states left, including CA & OR which are high in delegates and good for Bernie?

[ViseGrip]

1. Yes we do! But they don't get to hear the facts, only the spin. And all the Hillary trolls get

to them I guess....

[ViseGrip]

2. When Bernie speaks, AFTER THE DRAMA, he'll set the pace once again. He knows exact what is going on

and exactly what he's doing.

[senz]

19. Yes, he always seems to. His instincts are amazingly good.

[NJCher]

3. Who says? I'm not seeing what you're seeing

got an example?


Cher

[New Earth]

17. sure

1: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280185918

2: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280185919

3: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511844325

4: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511843875

[Downwinder]

4. Who is giving up?

I just have to watch for a tornado right now.

[senz]

18. I heard about that. Stay safe and good luck!

[Downwinder]

25. Two. One North and one South.

No idea on damage.

[djean111]

5. I have not given up.

But wow! the ghouls sure are out in force tonight! And "Bernie BUT-ers" stinking up the place.
They think they are being reasonable or whatever - they really need to vary their scripts a bit, if only so i don't get bored, before I Ignore them.

[Gwhittey]

6. Because I don't want to get alerts

for saying I don't like hillary. Like 5-6 I saw in 5-6 threads I looked at. HRC are in win mode so that means they are vindictive as hell.

[Rebkeh]

7. Some people are used to losing

Progressives have never won in my lifetime, it's what we know. Cenk (The Young Turks) said it best, he was quoting someone else, I don't know who: "Progressives aren't supposed to win, they are supposed to lose gracefully." People my age (mid forties) and older are used to this, it's the same old thing every freaking election, settling. We are supposed to settle and be happy about it. It's what we know.

I think that's what may be happening there.

[HubertHeaver]

13. Not settling yet. Just keeping heads down. Those other people are

vindictive as hell and are alerting on anything trying to get our people on "review".

[democrattotheend]

8. I'm not giving up exactly

But I see the writing on the wall. Unless an extraordinary event like Hillary being indicted happens, Bernie is not going to be the nominee. I guess I came to terms with that last week after New York. I want him to stay in until the last votes but return to his positive message. If he does that I will consider donating again. But I don't see the point in deluding ourselves into thinking that he still has more than a miniscule chance. At this point, if I donate again it will be to keep his message out there, not because I expect an ROI on the investment in terms of him getting the nomination (which, to be honest, is how I felt the first time I donated).

[2banon]

9. I'm not giving up, I live in California we don't get to vote until June.

I'm voting for Bernie! I don't give a damn what the HillarianBots are doing or saying. Just not going over there. What's the point?

It's about as useless as going to Freeper land.

Why in the hell should I or any of us wander over to enemy territory?

[NowSam]

10. Not giving up hope and

I'm actually hoping that the people of New York and Arizona and MA will get an adjustment due to the voter suppression etc.

Those states were robbed from our guy and it is not acceptable.

[xloadiex]

11. I'm not giving up n/t

[Hissyspit]

12. I'm not giving up. Almost anything can still happen.

Almost. Still, the numbers are not good.

[Babel_17]

14. I don't care much what gets said there

That mind share doesn't matter to the campaign. I phone banked, and I canvassed, and I have my bumper stickers, and my Sanders shirts, button, and hat.

I donate money and I speak up for the campaign. Next to that what does the incessant sniping against Sanders amount to? Pffft!

It's always been mostly about getting people to think in a revolutionary new way. That contest has been an ongoing success, and it won't be defeated. The implications to that are numerous, and more will be unfolding.

[appalachiablue]

15. After Tonight, 10 States and DC are left to Vote.~ Not Giving Up, Feel the Bern!

Tues. May 3, IN

Tues. May 10, WV

Tues. May 17, KY, OR

Tues. June 7, CA, MT, NJ, NM, ND, SD

Tues, June 14, DC

[senz]

16. I'm not giving up. There's too much at stake. Way too much.

This primary isn't about the lesser of two evils or the greater of two goods. This primary is about good and evil. I've made my choice.

They want us to think it's over. But it isn't over until it's over.

[thereismore]

51. Very good summary! nt

[LiberalArkie]

20. It is still who counts the votes. I am at the point of believing that HRC will win the nomination

and then arrested. The party will not have a candidate without holding another convention. It sounds very rovian.

[lmbradford]

32. We need wider margins

I think we just need to work harder to overcome the 10% "rigged" factor. We can do it if we don't wait until the last minute to go after a state. We need to use every available minute. Really take all of our time and get out new voters and convince registered voters. The more Bernie is seen and talked about, the more he wins. NO DAYS OFF and no more pouting and licking our wounds.

We can still do this. I have to because I cannot vote for anyone else in NOvember.

[LiberalArkie]

35. I was really surprised he won any today as those are DC states. They want things just like it is now

Of course Bernie may still win Arizona and New York after the Justice dept gets through.

[Babel_17]

21. Feelings are feelings but I'm reveling in this campaign

(Another thread got locked before I could post this)

It represents a much needed affront to the sensibilities of several establishments.

Imo a lot of notice is being taken of how this is the campaign that won't die and go away. This is like the sentiment that is given to the Kennedys, and FDR and The New Deal.

Sanders is the party's only hope if the FBI report comes down hard on Clinton and her aides. Even Bill, with The Clinton Foundation, is under scrutiny.

Clinton's problems are self inflicted. And I'm reminded that Ted Kennedy primary challenged a sitting Democratic President.

Momentum built for Ted Kennedy after Carter's attempt to rescue the hostages on April 25 ended in disaster and drew further skepticism towards Carter's leadership ability.[8] Nevertheless, Carter was still able to maintain a substantial lead even after Kennedy swept the last batch of primaries, which took place mostly in southern and rural states, in June. Despite this, Kennedy refused to drop out, and the 1980 Democratic National Convention was one of the nastiest on record. On the penultimate day, Kennedy conceded the nomination and called for a more liberal party platform in what many saw as the best speech of his career. On the platform on the final day, Kennedy for the most part ignored Carter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kennedy#1980_presidential_campaign

Sanders has been a gentleman, even a pussycat. Clinton is just incredibly vulnerable and just listing her record can appear to be an attack.

I hope this group stays strong.

[grasswire]

26. yes....

...consider how difficult it is for a gentleman to win against a flawed and desperate gutter fighter.

[Bettie]

22. I'm just giving up on DU

for tonight and maybe tomorrow because the gloating makes me want to barf.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

23. WHO IS GIVING UP?

they obviously aren't real Bernie supporters?

[840high]

33. Not me.

[hopemountain]

36. exactly. my thinking, too.

this is a revolution. we are just getting started as far as i am concerned. i am committed until the fat lady sings - me.

[RepubliCON-Watch]

24. This is a revolution not just a primary campaign!

There will be ups and downs. But change doesn't happen overnight, it takes a strong aggressive progressive movement. As Obama once said, "Yes We Can!"

[Rosa Luxemburg]

34. Very true

[grasswire]

27. Paul Wellstone: "Stand up!! Keep fighting!!" nt

[bkkyosemite]

28. Bernie's statement tonight says a lot. You need Independents in the GE to win and

Everyone needs a chance to vote for PRESIDENT Go Bernie ...Donate

[BernieforPres2016]

29. Some of us are decent to good with math and are facing reality

After tonight, if Bernie wins California 65-35 and every other remaining primary 60-40, he will still be about 50 pledged delegates short of Hillary going into the convention.

The only remaining hope is for the FBI to do its job and indict Hillary, and I think the chances of that are somewhere between slim and none.

[desmiller]

30. Who said I was giving up?

[noretreatnosurrender]

31. I'm Sure Not Giving Up

No Way - No How. Tomorrow I will be donating again to Bernie to make sure he can carry our message out across every state. Fighting the establishment is a LONG road and I don't plan to get off that road until they are defeated! We will win some battles and lose some but in the end we will win the war if we stay united. I sure in the hell won't listen to the Tokyo Rose talk coming from the Hillary camp.

[thereismore]

52. I will be donating again tomorrow - paycheck!

Go Bernie!

[Chezboo]

37. Here's an uplifting post from Bernie Sanders Activists FB

Omar Mian? to Bernie Sanders Activists

So guys here is an honest look at what's ahead:
Indiana- Bernie victory
West Virginia- Bernie victory
Kentucky- Bernie victory
Oregon- HUGE Bernie victory (make her non-viable here)
Puerto Rico- I don’t know why the hell they get 67 delegates and are not even a state. Complete BS. This looks favorable to Hillary unfortunately
California- We are already tied and INDEPENDENTS can vote here! Goal is to run up the margins and start working from today onward!
Montana- Bernie victory
New Jersey- Independents can vote but will be a challenge
New Mexico- Looks like a challenge but we can make it close
North Dakota- Bernie victory
South Dakota- Bernie victory
D.C- Unfortunately looks like a Hillary victory
SO we should be able to win 9/12 of the next primaries if we keep supporting him.
My state of California is the prize and we need to start working there starting today in April!
We need to show the world that our movement is RESILIENT!
If we win these states we will deny Hillary the nomination and this goes to a contested convention!!
We've been counted out since day one and look how far we've come! And yes we've come too far and this is just too important to give up on now.
SO LETS DO THIS!!

[davidpdx]

43. I hate to disagree with what he said,

but West Virginia and Kentucky will likely both go for Clinton. Clinton clobbered Obama in 2008 in both states. At the time it didn't matter much since Obama had a huge lead on Clinton. Also the same day Kentucky voted so did Oregon, which Obama won.

[Treleana]

45. I have hope for Puerto Rico.

It is an open primary and we have the amazing support of Residente and Rosario Dawson.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

38. I'm not giving up

I'm in California - reason enough!

Above post is excellent. Still feelin' the Bern.

[in_cog_ni_to]

39. The best is yet to come!

I'm not going anywhere.

Bernie's in this until the convention!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[Rosa Luxemburg]

40. Yes!

[CanadaexPat]

41. I want to know where to go now.

The primary is now a distraction to the message and the movement. How do we turn this into something that is ongoing?

[GreatGazoo]

42. GD-P is increasingly overrun by trolls and/or trollish behavior

The "Bernie Butters" has been a propaganda technique from the beginning of this primary and they will use it to the end -- it goes like this "I used to support Sanders but..."

[davidpdx]

44. I admit I have somewhat given up

I'm basically so sick of the fraud that is going on I struggle to call what we are doing an election. I have enthusiastically supported Sanders for a year and will continue to support him, but I'm under no illusion that since this whole thing is fucking rigged it will be nearly impossible for him to pull it off at this point. I really hope he wins Oregon and California to sweep the west coast (the fuckin' best coast). I'm also under no illusion that if Clinton is the nominee he's not going to get shit at the convention. Clinton doesn't want unity, she wants to be rid of both Sanders and his supporters.

[JudyM]

46. I am going to continue volunteering in every state.

I put together a team that organizes canvassers for Bernie in counties beyond the campaign's reach. We are all going to continue.

If anyone would like to join us, BTW, PM me

[riderinthestorm]

47. Never giving up. Just not going to waste much time in GDP anymore

I'm in till the revolution prevails.

[LiberalElite]

48. I'm not giving up - and

are they all REALLY Bernie supporters? Or are some just doing their "job"?
P.S.: I avoid GD-P for the sake of my blood pressure and sanity.

[mvd]

49. We've come too far to give up. I support Bernie to the end

I also respect his wishes. I can do the math and I understand the long odds. But June is a ways away, and too early to say nothing can happen at all to make Bernie the nominee. Nothing hurts our chances in November by Bernie staying in. In fact, it may help by keeping the movement alive and influencing the convention.

[silvershadow]

50. So many were sent to jail lately, it does kind of stifle dissent.

I just got back from a 4 day stint. I pined while I was gone. I checked in hourly to make sure what was going on and I kept thinking to myself "Doesn't anyone miss me?" (Other than the sour grapes posts with quotes from me in that certain place). Every time I saw a post about people being quiet etc I kept thinking "No we are in jail!".

On that note I propose a silent thread for those on time out.

If there's someone you are missing you should check on them to see if they might be out of reach...

[Bjornsdotter]

54. I noticed

...but I thought you left. So many have and I don't blame them a bit.

This is a good time to parse words carefully.

[silvershadow]

56. I'm parsing like a gourmet chef. nt

[Bjornsdotter]

57. Lol!

[silvershadow]

58. .

[LiberalArkie]

53. Psyops.

OMG we are so dejected by all the poor results in the eastern closed elections that I had to give more money today.

[silvershadow]

61. :D nt

[Bjornsdotter]

55. I am not giving up

....I don't know what Bernie is planning but I am with him.

[Gwhittey]

59. Looks like all HRC have retreated to the Echo Chamber

They only come out when they can gloat and shit.

[New Earth]

60. I'm happy to see so many not giving up.

I had questioned giving up or not but decided no. Not that I was truly giving up, just bringing down my high hopes of him winning.

But the other day I heard him still sounding confident that he has a chance and I know he's a smart man. I'm just going to trust him