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appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:10 PM Apr 2016

JOE BIDEN: 'He'll Take Mr. Sanders Aspirations Over Mrs. Clinton's Caution Any Day'

New York Times, "Biden Looks Back, Aspirations Intact", Thursday, April 21, 2016 ~ PRAISE FOR SANDERS



- Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., center, at the Oval Office this month.
He remains neutral in the battle between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, but not between their campaign styles.
He’ll take Mr. Sanders’s aspirational approach over Mrs. Clinton’s caution any day.

Having passed on the 2016 presidential race, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. watches the fight for the Democratic nomination with a mixture of longing and restlessness. He remains neutral in the battle between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, but not between their campaign styles. *He’ll take Mr. Sanders’s aspirational approach over Mrs. Clinton’s caution any day.

“I like the idea of saying, ‘We can do much more,’ because we can,” Mr. Biden said in an interview on the Washington-to-Wilmington, Del., Amtrak train he has ridden throughout four decades in national politics.
“I don’t think any Democrat’s ever won saying, ‘We can’t think that big — we ought to really downsize here because it’s not realistic,’ ” he said in a mocking tone. “C’mon man, this is the Democratic Party! I’m not part of the party that says, ‘Well, we can’t do it.’ ”

..Pointing to the financial crisis, the Great Recession and fierce battles with Republicans over health care and government funding, Mr. Biden said, “We had about eight atom bombs dropped on our desk.”

Yet he likes the idea that Mr. Sanders is aiming high, regardless of whether the large steps he envisions to narrow INCOME INEQUALITY and broaden economic opportunity become realized in the next presidential term. The philosophy Mr. Biden has advocated within the Obama White House: Push for a lot, and persevere over the long run.

“Presidents have always been told by really smart people: ‘Don’t push something that you can’t succeed in-- it diminishes your power,’ ” he said. “I completely disagree with that proposition. “Everything I’ve ever cared about — with the exception of the president’s brilliant passage of the Affordable Care Act -- takes time,” he added.
“The only way to get these big things done is talk about them.”

More: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/22/us/politics/biden-looks-back-aspirations-intact.html?_r=0

Vice President Joseph R. Biden, Jr. was born in 1942 in Scranton, Pennsylvania and lived there for ten years before moving to Delaware where he graduated from the University of Delaware. He received a law degree from Syracuse University, practiced law in Wilmington, and was a Councilman for New Castle County, Delaware. In 1972 Biden campaigned and was elected US Senator from Delaware (D) which he represented from 1973-2009 when he became the Vice President of President Barack Obama.
Biden is the first Roman Catholic and the first Delawarean to become Vice President of the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden



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JOE BIDEN: 'He'll Take Mr. Sanders Aspirations Over Mrs. Clinton's Caution Any Day' (Original Post) appalachiablue Apr 2016 OP
I Will Take JOE BIDEN's Aspirations Over Mrs. Clinton's Poor Judgment Any Day awake Apr 2016 #1
Appreciation for the Vice President's Honesty about Sen. Bernie's Sanders' Aspirational Approach! appalachiablue Apr 2016 #6
Amen, Thanks Joe! appalachiablue Apr 2016 #13
What VP BIDEN Said: "He Likes Bernie's Aspirational Style", Sanders Rally Ap. 23 Wilmington, DE appalachiablue Apr 2016 #2
Spoken like a man with nothing left to lose !!! Hiraeth Apr 2016 #3
~ THANK YOU FOR YOUR HONESTY, VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN! ~ appalachiablue Apr 2016 #5
Indeed. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #11
Thanks for the Janis reminder. senz Apr 2016 #14
me too Hiraeth Apr 2016 #16
I ran across this a couple of weeks ago. You might enjoy it senz Apr 2016 #17
Thanks for that. She sounds tired. May she rest in peace. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #18
PRAISE For SANDERS, "BIDEN Mum on Whether He Voted For Clinton or Sanders" CNN, Ap. 23 appalachiablue Apr 2016 #4
Thanks, Joe! NewImproved Deal Apr 2016 #7
Beautiful! Photo of Vice President Biden & Sen. Sanders and Mrs. Sanders, (Dr. Jane Sanders) appalachiablue Apr 2016 #9
Joe just voted in DE. I bet that was a vote for Bernie. jillan Apr 2016 #8
What I think too. Who can resist? Americans Love Bernie and Jane :) appalachiablue Apr 2016 #10
kick silvershadow Apr 2016 #12
What a happy thread. Thank you! senz Apr 2016 #15
BIDEN: Bernie as Dem. Socialist, Income Inequality Credibility, Middle Class Broken Bargain, More appalachiablue Apr 2016 #19

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
2. What VP BIDEN Said: "He Likes Bernie's Aspirational Style", Sanders Rally Ap. 23 Wilmington, DE
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:18 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:44 AM - Edit history (1)



WATCH, Bernie's mentions Joe Biden's praise in the New York Times article of Thursday, April 21,

Vice President Biden said,

"HE'LL TAKE MR. SANDERS' ASPIRATIONAL APPROACH OVER MRS. CLINTON'S CAUTION ANY DAY."

Biden also said we can do much more, and think big.

Delaware and several other states hold primary elections Tuesday.

Thank You Vice President Biden! Go Delaware and Bernie!!

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
3. Spoken like a man with nothing left to lose !!!
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:24 PM
Apr 2016

Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose
Nothin' ain't worth nothin' but it's free

SING IT JOE !!!

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
17. I ran across this a couple of weeks ago. You might enjoy it
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:46 PM
Apr 2016

or it might make you shed a tear, I don't know ...



They don't make 'em like her anymore.

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
4. PRAISE For SANDERS, "BIDEN Mum on Whether He Voted For Clinton or Sanders" CNN, Ap. 23
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:50 PM
Apr 2016

CNN, "BIDEN MUM ON WHETHER HE VOTED FOR CLINTON OR SANDERS", Updated April 23 ~ PRAISES SANDERS.



Vice President Joe Biden cast his vote in the Delaware Democratic primary Friday but stayed quiet on which candidate he voted for as his party's nominee. The vice president -- and his wife, Jill Biden -- voted early while at their home in Wilmington, Delaware on Friday, the vice president's office confirmed to CNN. Politico first reported his vote on Friday.

While Biden has not endorsed either Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders for the Democratic nominee, he has not been shy about talking about the state of the race and the two candidates.
Just this week in an interview, Biden praised Sanders for thinking big about how to lead the country, seeming to dismiss the Vermont independent senator's critics who say his proposals are not realistic. "I like the idea of saying, 'We can do much more,' because we can," Biden told The New York Times in an interview published Thursday.

"I don't think any Democrat's ever won saying, 'We can't think that big- we ought to really downsize here because it's not realistic,'" Biden said. "C'mon man, this is the Democratic Party! I'm not part of the party that says, 'Well, we can't do it.'"
It's not the first time Biden has made comments interpreted as support for the Vermont senator.
During a CNN interview with Gloria Borger in January, Biden backed Sanders' fight on income inequality and described Clinton as "relatively new" to the movement.

Biden mulled whether to run for the Democratic nomination last year, before he put an end to speculation in an October announcement that he wouldn't seek the presidency. The vice president, who has wanted to reach the highest office for decades, said he regrets "every day" that he didn't enter the 2016 presidential race -- but that his decision was in his family's best interests.
*The Delaware primary, scheduled for Tuesday, is a closed primary. Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Connecticut and Maryland also have their primaries that day.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/23/politics/joe-biden-votes-democratic-primary/
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-VICE PRESIDENT JOSEPH R. BIDEN, JR.
Joe Biden was born in 1942 in Scranton, Pennsylvania and lived there for ten years before moving to Delaware where he graduated from the University of Delaware. He received a law degree from Syracuse University, practiced law in Wilmington, and was a Councilman for New Castle County, Delaware. In 1972 Biden campaigned and was elected US Senator from Delaware (D) which he represented from 1973-2009 when he became the Vice President of President Barack Obama.
*Biden is the first Roman Catholic and the first Delawarean to become Vice President of the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden

-DR. JILL BIDEN, SECOND LADY OF THE UNITED STATES
As Second Lady of the United States, Dr. Jill Biden works to bring attention to the sacrifices made by military families, to highlight the importance of community colleges to America’s future, and to raise awareness around areas of particular importance to women including breast cancer prevention, all while continuing to teach English full-time at a community college in nearby Virginia.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/jill-biden

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
9. Beautiful! Photo of Vice President Biden & Sen. Sanders and Mrs. Sanders, (Dr. Jane Sanders)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:14 PM
Apr 2016


~ SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS, ~ A FUTURE TO BELIEVE IN ~

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
10. What I think too. Who can resist? Americans Love Bernie and Jane :)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:30 PM
Apr 2016




~ The Video That Captures Why Americans Are Connecting & Supporting Senator Bernie Sanders!


 

senz

(11,945 posts)
15. What a happy thread. Thank you!
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:51 AM
Apr 2016

It feels especially good because I was over at GD-P a few minutes ago, and it feels like it's crawling with unsavory insects, just awful.

Then to see this.

And yes, I believe both Obama and Biden prefer Bernie over Hill.

Can't say as I blame 'em.

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
19. BIDEN: Bernie as Dem. Socialist, Income Inequality Credibility, Middle Class Broken Bargain, More
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:38 PM
Apr 2016


CNN's Gloria Borger sits down with Vice President Joe Biden and discusses the prospects of Democratic Presidential candidates Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Jan. 2016.

Biden discusses Bernie as a European style democratic socialist, that Bernie speaks to a yearning that is deep and real, and he has credibility on it. That is the absolute, enormous concentration of wealth in a small group of people, with the Middle Class now able to be shown as left out.
There used to be a basic bargain, that if you contributed to the profitability of an enterprise, you got to share in the profit. That's been broken and productivity is way up, wages are stagnant, Biden said. No one questions Bernie's authenticity on those issues. It's relatively new for Hillary to talk about that. I never thought she was the prohibitive favorite, and I don't think she ever thought she was the prohibitive favorite.

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