Annie Oakley returns to Pennsylvania

[virtualobserver]

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/23/hillary-clintons-pennsylvania-visit-is-another-welcome-home/

“I want to be really clear about this, because I learned how to shoot a gun behind our cottage in Lake Winola,” Mrs. Clinton said. “And I know how important gun ownership and particularly hunting is here in northeastern Pennsylvania.”

“I want you to know that we can’t ignore the Second Amendment, and we can’t ignore that 33,000 people a year die from gun violence,” she said. “I think we are smart enough to figure out how to do that.”

Here, she is back to her 2008 position.

[Ed Suspicious]

1. She is play-doh.

[Baobab]

3. She is Stepford-like, robotic.

Or perhaps I should say "Manchurian Candidate" like.

No insult meant to the inhabitants of Manchuria.

[MrMickeysMom]

34. Or can even cover MORE surface area like this...

[Rosa Luxemburg]

2. Obama called her out on this one in 2008!

[virtualobserver]

18. It is like a recurring nightmare.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

25. yet no one in the media is noticing

[Jubilant18]

4. How is her quote different from Bernie's position on guns? n/t

[Dragonfli]

5. The question is, why has her position on guns changed since NY? When will it change back again? /nt

[pokerfan]

35. It's called evolving.

Duh.

[virtualobserver]

7. the quote is totally different- she is pandering with her OWN tales of shooting...In Penn.

she provides a two for the price of one pandering experience.

Plus, she only speaks in favor of the second amendment in certain regions of the country.

She is incredibly inconsistent.

[Baobab]

33. extreme hypocrisy

this is like in that unnamed middle eastern country where ....

[TBF]

6. I'm dizzy. nt

[virtualobserver]

8. if the concept of "having no shame" didn't exist.....

It would have to have been invented for her.

[Dragonfli]

9. Bernie's position regarding Guns makes sense, if one considers that some people hunt,

I don't get that "thrill of the kill" that appears to make hunting a sport, that thrill eludes me. I do have extended family members that do hunt, (not trophy hunters but to help subsidize their food supply), they live in rural areas and are poor, so I get it. I find it interesting that Hillary has now adopted Bernie sanders position now that she has reached Pa., but I don't find it surprising.

What I find disturbing is how when she ran even further pro gun in 2008, she had legislative proof that concerned me regarding non hunting uses of such weapons regarding safety and the intended use of some munitions (beyond her military love of cluster bombing, that being a separate issue)

Hillary voted against CHILD SAFETY LOCKS on guns. Bernie voted for the locks.

(Sec. 5) Child Safety Lock Act of 2005 - Prohibits the sale, delivery, or transfer by a licensed importer, manufacturer, or dealer of a handgun to any person other than a person with a firearms license unless the transferee is provided with a secure gun storage or safety device. Lists exceptions, including for U.S. and state agencies and for law enforcement. Grants immunity from a qualified civil liability action for a person who has lawful possession and control of a handgun and who uses a secure gun storage or safety device. Establishes as penalties for violations: (1) license revocation or suspension for up to six months; or (2) a civil penalty of up to $2,500.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/109/s397/summary

Hypocrite much?

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Hillary voted _against_ banning armor piercing "cop-killer" bullets- Bernie voted for the ban

(Sec. 6) Sets penalties for using or carrying armor piercing ammunition during and in relation to a crime of violence or a drug trafficking crime, and for possessing armor piercing ammunition in furtherance of any such crime, that shall be in addition to the punishment otherwise provided for such crime.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/109/s397/summary

What was Hillary thinking? Why did she vote against the ban on cop-killer bullets?

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Hillary has been a friend of the gun and ammo industries

Winchester rifle ammo with bullets designed to fragment and spread in the target’s body


Big Ammo: Clinton is raising money from gunpowder lobbyists and investors

At the Democratic debate on 14 April 2016, Hillary Clinton said that “we need a president who will stand up against the gun lobby.” However Secretary of State Clinton effectively stood with the gun lobby as she approved millions in revenue for two huge gunpowder mills. Since then she has received payments from numerous ammunition industry stakeholders, including over $160,000 in contributions from her campaign chair’s brother, ammo lobbyist Anthony Podesta.

While Clinton has been connected to the gunmakers that make the assault rifles used in American massacres and an NRA lobbyist, less attention has been paid to her ties to ammunition manufacturers that also play a central role in the gun lobby. In the financial years ending in 2010 and 2011, Secretary Clinton approved sales of ammunition worth upwards of $345 million. The approvals included those for a gunpowder giant that Clinton is especially close to.

Clinton approved sales for NRA-allied ammunition suppliers. Pentagon reports show that in the two years ending June 2011, Clinton approved more than $144 million in gun and ammunition sales for General Dynamics (GD) as well as $34 million in ammunition sales for GD’s gunpowder client, Winchester. Though GD does not itself sell ammunition directly to the retail market, their St Mark’s Powder mill is a major wholesale supplier of gunpowder for domestic commercial ammo brands like Challenger, Samson, Ramshot, Blazer, Hodgdon and Winchester. General Dynamics gunpowders include formulation 748, “the powder of choice for 223 Remington ammunition.” Remington 223 ammunition is used in AR-15 assault rifles, the type of guns that were used in both the Sandy Hook and San Bernardino massacres. Winchester sells ammunition to American consumers, and is a strong supporter of the gun lobby. Winchester has close ties with the National Rifle Association specifically, co-sponsoring a shooting education program with the NRA.

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[virtualobserver]

10. Hillary voted against CHILD SAFETY LOCKS, because they interfere with a child's right to bear arms.

[Dragonfli]

11. I've heard of that, only a good toddler with a gun can stop a bad toddler with a gun. /nt

[Admiral Loinpresser]

12. "Yer dern tootin' I'm breakin' down bearriers to git tat varmit!"

[dorkzilla]

15. LOL!!!!

[Admiral Loinpresser]

16. "YeeHaw!" Pow, pow, pow, pow! n/t

[dorkzilla]

17. You made that, didn't you?

Even if you didn't I'm humbled to be in the presence of one so capable of creating OR finding such a perfect fucking illustration. Well done, Admiral!

[Admiral Loinpresser]

20. My wife found it. I'm a Luddite.

But I did ask her to search for "Hillary Yosemite Sam." Also, I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.

[virtualobserver]

19. Where is her sidekick, Brock Droppings?

[Admiral Loinpresser]

23. I just passed water thru my nose. Good one. n/t

[virtualobserver]

24. Mission accomplished, then.

[Major Hogwash]

13. Why would anyone support a lying candidate like her?

Last week it was "I'll grab all their guns" . . this week it is "Shoot 'em if ya got 'em."

What a two-faced candidate.

[virtualobserver]

21. Her only regret.... that she has but two faces to show to her country.

[dorkzilla]

14. Hillary, you know we can all hear you, right?

I don't understand how she has any supporters. She's just confirmed her position on guns is no different than Bernie's.

[virtualobserver]

22. She has barely mastered email....perhaps she is unaware of the internet.

[dorkzilla]

27. ...and video...and tape recorders...

and she probably writes letters with lemon juice.

[berniepdx420]

26. ..

[grasswire]

28. smart enough to figure out how to do WHAT?

Die from gun violence? Ignore the Second Amendment?

[virtualobserver]

29. Probably both......She might come up with a plan to integrate the two concepts.

Or maybe she thinks that she is smart enough to bullshit us two different ways?

[grasswire]

30. If that quote from her in OP was not edited since she uttered it..

...then I'm thinking something's wrong with her synapses. Word salad.

[virtualobserver]

31. I don't think that it was meant to mean anything real.....just that we can have our cake .....

and eat it too.

[grasswire]

32. remember those toys where you pull a string and it generates...

...random comment? That's the feeling I'm getting about HRC right now.