Another post about silly numbers from New York's primary election

[passy]

Last edited Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:44 PM - Edit history (1)

If you look at my previous post I explained how the numbers for Kings and Bronx counties looked too perfect, well crunching the numbers some of them appear way too similar.

The numbers for Kings are 174 236 - 116 327 so 59.96% - 40.04% a 19.929% difference
A perfect 60% - 40% is 174 338 - 116 225 a 102 vote difference 0.035% of the total

The numbers for Bronx are 95 772 - 41 114 so 69.96% - 30.04% a 39.929% difference
A perfect 70% - 30% is 95 820 - 41 066 a 48 vote difference 0.035% of the total

The increase in votes for Hillary in Kings is also almost a third extra (32,9995%).

The increase in votes for Kings from 2008 is 9.9963% or 26 406 votes a perfect 10% increase would be 26415.7 a 9.7 vote difference or 0.0367% of the total increase. (At least based on the results still up at the NYT)

In 2008 Hillary and Obama combined got 1963 votes more than Hillary and Bernie combined a 0.108% decrease in 2016. If you also count the votes for Edwards and others in 2008 you actually see a greater 2.4% decrease of in 2016.

Kings is the biggest county in terms of votes and saw the biggest increase, Bronx actually saw a 1.2% decrease and Queens a 0.94% increase.

Another interesting number is 126.000 the number of purged voters in Kings (Brooklyn) is almost the same as the number of people who voted for Obama in 2008 (126 885). If all these people were unable to vote then it makes no sense that Kings experienced such an increase compared to 2008 when none of the other big counties did and the state as a whole had a lower turn out. Could it have been made to look like the purge really hadn't affected the turn out.

Is it just me or is there too many numbers that don't make sense.

[noretreatnosurrender]

1. It's Not Just You

The other thing that really bugged me about that election was the speed at which the votes were reported in the 5 boroughs. The rest of the state reported like a normal election. But the 5 boroughs came in lighting fast. The only other state that had super fast reporting was Florida. I was amazed when that happened too.

Have you looked at the numbers in Erie county? They don't even have all of the precincts reporting yet. And remember, in Colorado the numbers were reported wrong and the Colorado Democratic Party and the Hillary campaign kept it under their hats for 5 weeks until the Denver Post exposed what had been done.

[passy]

2. I think you're about the five boroughs.

To me it seems like they just typed in the numbers and didn't even bother do a count.
Remember in 2008 some precincts recorded no votes for Obama at first.

[noretreatnosurrender]

6. Very Strange

It seemed that way to me too. I remember on election night when CNN posted their exit polls and it was a 4 pt spread. Later in the evening one of the Hillary supporters said that they then came out and said they were wrong because they had weighted votes from Erie county too much. Bernie was leading in Erie county until the very end when it switched over to Hillary. I would really like to have an independent count of all of the votes in NY. I also think that in 2008 Obama got more votes than he was credited with getting.

[passy]

10. Erie is really even

With 99.7% in, the difference is 812 votes.

[Else You Are Mad]

3. I don't know if it means anything...

But assuming, arguendo, if this is correct it is tantamount to the student cheating that answers a question wrong in order to hide the fact they are cheating.

[passy]

5. Yep exactly, a tiny difference in the answer to make it look like you didn't cheat

You enter random numbers in some counties and then you can't be bothered and enter simple percentages like 70/30 and 60/40 with a tiny 0.035% variation to make it look less perfect.
Otherwise just coincidence.

[jillan]

4. #math Clinton style. It's kinda like posting delegate totals that include "promised" delegates not

actual delegates.

Any number will do.

[passy]

9. Exactly!

[Baobab]

7. Ask the AAAS HRDAG group

they could tell you

[passy]

8. Sorry the what?

[passy]

11. Orange and Dutchess are also strikingly similar.

Hillary wins in Orange county with 51.4784% and Bernie wins Dutchess with 51.4877%

[passy]

12. K&R

[passy]

13. K&R