Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumHere's the HRC strategy now.
Shame Bernie into quitting or backing off by complaining that he is hurting party unity.
I've seen it repeatedly in the last couple of days from surrogates.
Now the MSM has picked it up.
Trying to drive him out.
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Rockyj
(538 posts)to support Hillary. Blame it on the current Democratic Party and NOT on us Bernie supporters if Hillary loses to Trump! The current Democratic Party has come just as shady and greedy as the Republican Party!
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brewens
(13,620 posts)should have been democrats for years if the party had been what it used to be. It's the real shame of their not being allowed to vote for an actual liberal candidate once one came around.
But the bribes have been paid, handshakes made, promises to keep the gravy train rolling. It wouldn't do to have someone catch fire and threaten all that, no matter what the people want.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)merrily
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Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)I doubt it did any good but I feel I was accurate as the poster posted this:
his campaign of lies and insinuation. I guess we'll see how many people were fooled by his Hail Mary Papal ambush by this time tomorrow. Bernie has proven how gullible certain segments of the electorate are. Fortunately you can't fool all the people all the time.
My response:
Is avoiding the worst of her many scandals and sticks to policy differences rather than her shady cash to "her foundation" in exchange for weapon sales such as cluster bombs and war aircraft to Saudi Arabia to be used against largely civilians. He has stayed away from the email (multiple scandals revealed within the emails themselves) as well as the truth that She is under FBI investigation and has already hired her criminal defense attorney among many other embarrassingly corrupt things she has been doing, a negative campaign would do that and wouldn't even have to resort to the non-existent lies you write of to pull off such a "negative campaign."
He has yet to run negative and you bloody well now it.
You are using the Rovian tactic that involves projection and lying in order to use a candidates strength and paint it as the opposite of what it is! This is called in political terms "swift-boating". Please stop, it is a GOP tactic and embarrasses all Democrats when a Democrat uses such GOP tactics. She even had her campaign announce her plan to go negative by telling the reporter attached to her campaign that she was as a warning, perhaps intended to intimidate him to drop out of the race after daring to win so many States in a row. Or perhaps due to pure Hubris
Stop embarrassing yourself and by extension all other Democrats by adopting the Rove play book you are using, Just stop it! Please.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511774539#post9
merrily
(45,251 posts)But, I agree. Claiming Bernie harmed party unity is a joke. Neither Bernie nor his campaign surrogates ever attacked Hillary supporters. He did go against her heritage or her religion. He did nothing low. As far as the Hail Mary, give me a break. He unselfishly took time that he r needed for campaigning in New York to further the causes of peace and economic justice, some of the causes to which he has devoted his adult life. Too bad if it made heads explode in the other camp. Some of them tar anything.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280177128
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)of the house on an errand reading my dog and a backyard bark fest issue regarding a squirrel or something. She hypnotized me into a "play ball session" and I forget to add anything when I finally got back in.
merrily
(45,251 posts)jeepers
(314 posts)lets all vote on who we like better, who stays and who leaves, who is a democrat and who is not. It was like an epiphany.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]It. Will. Not. Work.
[font color="purple"]Go, Bernie! Feelin' The Bern!
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)for him.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)they can just STFU. They want Bernie out so they can use her nomination as an excuse not to indict.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
Phlem
(6,323 posts)That's some fucked up spin but not surprising.
Disgusting.
We witnessed it play out in the last midterms.
When we needed *cough* Republican votes.
And now they want party unity.
Who's fucking party, the rich guy's?
WTF!?
yellerpup
(12,254 posts)He wants everyone to vote and have their vote counted.
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Mike__M
(1,052 posts)their plans never backfire.
jmousso75
(71 posts)We Bernie supporters are a stubborn,bunch, we are not quitters! I think I will donate again.......
Autumn Colors
(2,379 posts)"Project much?"
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)digital media specialists or "brock puppets" as I prefer to call them that he pays to spread FUD and lies across the many internet platforms, (including forums like this.) Already I have seen a herd of these,
repeat the meme that supports the strategy.
They are nothing if not predictable in their repetitive and consistent meme output.
Blue Meany
(1,947 posts)extent. Look at Correct the Record or Blue Nation on twitter and see how many journalists follow and re-tweet this stuff; it pretty amazing. I sometimes wonder how many of the journalists are getting paid to spread this stuff.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)creating the Clinton campaign's own little media network and echo chamber just like the GOP have. It is working as expected, and part of that involves people quoting, tweeting, re tweeting and Facebook posting the campaign propaganda.
This is a huge advantage (just like having Hillary's daughter strategically placed on the board of the Daily Beast recently) as well as having close ties and large contributions from the owners of most of the MSM networks.
Then there is the fact that the Party establishment including the DNC is firmly biased in her favor.
All these things are true and with these givens we should be seeing a Clinton blowout, in fact, with such a huge advantage, the race should have been won after the first three or four States, BUT SUCH IS NOT HAPPENING!
All that these incredibly strong advantages she has against a candidate that will only accept money from people, not PACs in the age of citizen's united show how much stronger of a candidate he is, and how big and enthusiastic his base is!
Especially considering he may even win this primary and is certainly very competitive!
If he even comes close in NY, he could destroy her in Cali among other paces, take pride and comfort in that. No matter how much the deck has been stacked against him, and I have, after 37 years of actively following politics, never seen the deck so incredibly stacked against any candidate.
His movement is so fucking strong, he will get to the convention no matter what!
merrily
(45,251 posts)dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)And you are right that the media is a willing participate. Even David Axelrod was saying that if Bernie did not win NY he will have to start backing off.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)He will make it to the convention!
merrily
(45,251 posts)dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)since many of us Obama supporters (I was one then, though he soon lost me after he was in office) were concerned he could be assassinated, he was receiving death threats at the time, there are a lot of unstable racists in this country, and Obama appeared (not really the case, as it turned out) to be running against the MIC and against the establishment, so we were worried about him.
She could have rightfully stayed in the race for that reason, but the way she so brazenly and publicly said it made the assassination risk even higher.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)rolls...her having the party all ready...her talking about coming together...so confident...this is rigged.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)He's friends with the Clintons, you know.
I think the strategy is to use him as a "bad cop" and hillary as the "good cop".
In short I think we're being cynically manipulated by people who think they own the world and are gaming the system.