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Phlem

(6,323 posts)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:05 PM Apr 2016

So we're focusing on the invite instead of

what might be going on behind the scenes.

It's no mystery that Pope Francis is trying to move the church into a different direction. To a more liberal all inclusive position on things like the LGBT community, wealth accumulation, perceptions on other religions, etc.

But we all fail to see that the old guard (not unlike another situation) does not like change. It's been expressed in the media and I'm not going to look for it, we're all adults and I'm sure one can find it if they look as I've seen it multiple times.

Here's an action that seems to align with this "Theory".

http://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/francis-removes-german-bling-bishop

I'll state the obvious, there is conflict within the church.

Whomever was or was not invited to the vatican to speak on whatever subject and all the hubbub around it only seems to solidify the fact that the conflict in the Vatican is being played out.

A very liberal and consequential leader being undermined by the more comfortable conservative followers.

I don't see anything different playing out if Bernie wins the Presidency.

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So we're focusing on the invite instead of (Original Post) Phlem Apr 2016 OP
All Else Considered - Pope Francis Knows Bernie Is Attending The Conference cantbeserious Apr 2016 #1
I don't doubt. Phlem Apr 2016 #2
If they want to talk about invitation/hosts, let's go there! Snarkoleptic Apr 2016 #3
Pretty much my opinion of Sanders. Phlem Apr 2016 #4
And her speech will not be available to the public at large TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #5

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
3. If they want to talk about invitation/hosts, let's go there!
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:36 PM
Apr 2016
http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sanders-pope-clinton-fundraiser/
On Friday, April 15, Bernie Sanders will travel to the Vatican to discuss the global economy and environmental sustainability at a conference on social, environmental, and economic issues, hosted by the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences. Sanders will speak on his vision of a “moral economy.”

“Pope Francis has made clear that we must overcome ‘the globalization of indifference’ in order to reduce economic inequalities, stop financial corruption and protect the natural environment. That is our challenge in the United States and in the world,” Sanders said in a public statement.

That same day, Hillary Clinton will be attending a fundraiser in the global financial capital of Hong Kong, hosted by Gary Gensler, her campaign’s Chief Financial Officer. Gensler walked through the revolving door from Wall Street to Washington’s financial regulatory system. Prior to heading up the Commodity Futures Trading Commission’s (CFTC) regulation of derivative swaps, Gensler was a partner at Goldman Sachs. The fundraiser can only be attended by those willing to donate the maximum allowable contribution of $2,700.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
4. Pretty much my opinion of Sanders.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:50 PM
Apr 2016

Let him talk.

The one thing people don't seem to mention about his alleged failed interview is he answered questions honestly. If he didn't know, he didn't know and said so. Should he have made shit up? Is that what we want in a leader is to consistently lie and make shit up?

I know a lot of smart people, mostly super talented 3D programmers who don't hesitate saying, "I don't know".

His candidacy is what I want.

So, Amen brother, let him talk.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,192 posts)
5. And her speech will not be available to the public at large
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 06:48 PM
Apr 2016

And since when is it okay to have fundraisers OVERSEAS? Seriously, wasn't there an uproar in the 90s about All Gore accepting campaign donations from some Taiwanese nationals?

And even if it technically legal, is it really wise for Clinton to attend fundraisers in CHINA?

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