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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:06 AM Apr 2016

And right on cue - here comes the spin on Bernie's townhall at the Apollo.

Do you ever feel like you live in an alternate universe? I saw a moving and deep conversation about where this country is heading and why we need change.
But the NYT saw it as.... The Headline:

At Harlem’s Apollo, Bernie Sanders Slams the Clintons on Poverty and Race


And the opening paragraphs:
Bernie Sanders on Saturday night called on former President Bill Clinton to apologize for drowning out protesters who confronted him about his administration’s role in incarcerating large numbers of black people and about Hillary Clinton’s use of the term “super predator.”

At a campaign event in Harlem’s Apollo Theater, which ended with a protester interrupting the Vermont senator with anti-Semitic remarks, Mr. Sanders was asked about Mr. Clinton’s recent confrontation with Black Lives Matter protesters over the term used by Hillary Clinton in 1996 to describe gang members.


The rest is better, but of course they just had to use that headline as if that was the most important part of this evening.

Here's the link if you want to read the entire piece.
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/09/at-harlems-apollo-bernie-sanders-slams-the-clintons-on-poverty-and-race/?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0
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And right on cue - here comes the spin on Bernie's townhall at the Apollo. (Original Post) jillan Apr 2016 OP
I like that headline Kalidurga Apr 2016 #1
That's very true. I guess in my mind I had visions of Rachel Maddow ranting for 15 mins jillan Apr 2016 #3
I dare anyone who supports Hillary to rant about that Kalidurga Apr 2016 #5
You have a point there - Rachel, as far as I know, hasn't mentioned Bill's public tantrum. jillan Apr 2016 #11
fuck 'em. Bernie has got street cred AND Harry Belafonte. They are eating our dust! Hiraeth Apr 2016 #2
You're right! I guess I am becoming protective of Bernie. jillan Apr 2016 #4
Since Wisconsin I am NOT looking back. Girl. We got this. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #6
Perfect song! Thanks for sharing. jillan Apr 2016 #14
I'm still only half thru' watching that, on tape! delrem Apr 2016 #7
I loved Belafonte's "Been there. Done that." For a 90 yo man, he's still very sharp. jillan Apr 2016 #15
I liked that in his first address, he explained about the genocide on First Nations. delrem Apr 2016 #16
Well of course. Jewish man speaking to black people? make it about the white person who wasn't there Scootaloo Apr 2016 #8
Our very own Clinton supporting TM99 Apr 2016 #9
What the media is now doing CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #10
I heard a clip of him - so funny - he said when the media used to think he didn't have a chance jillan Apr 2016 #13
LOL. Now the NY Times is spinning so the Clintons pick up the racist white Dem vote! mhatrw Apr 2016 #12
The New York Times fell in the same trap they laid for Sanders. malletgirl02 Apr 2016 #17

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
1. I like that headline
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:10 AM
Apr 2016

Of course it makes it seem like Bernie was an angry old man railing against the Clintons for the entire time. But, that's okay he did come out strong against what Bill Clinton said. Not as strong as I would like he insists on being a gentleman and not using bad words or being a rage monkey.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
3. That's very true. I guess in my mind I had visions of Rachel Maddow ranting for 15 mins
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:18 AM
Apr 2016

about that headline

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
5. I dare anyone who supports Hillary to rant about that
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:20 AM
Apr 2016

I double dog, no I triple dog dare them. If they rant about it that will make them look bad and it will make Bernie look good for taking on that POS Bill Clinton.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
11. You have a point there - Rachel, as far as I know, hasn't mentioned Bill's public tantrum.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:00 AM
Apr 2016

Because if she did she might have to discuss what it was about.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
7. I'm still only half thru' watching that, on tape!
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:25 AM
Apr 2016

I've been going to it all night, and I find that what Belafonte says is fascinating in its pithiness.

I guess nobody at the NYT understands.
Pity.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
16. I liked that in his first address, he explained about the genocide on First Nations.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:12 AM
Apr 2016

He explained it in terms of the racist inhumanity of the European colonialist drive that "won the west".
He was exact and true.

Wow, what a gulf between that and the US cowboys vs indians pop culture.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
8. Well of course. Jewish man speaking to black people? make it about the white person who wasn't there
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:28 AM
Apr 2016
 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
9. Our very own Clinton supporting
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:30 AM
Apr 2016

Pravda.

How so many can fall for this propagand and bullshit is simply beyond me.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
10. What the media is now doing
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:52 AM
Apr 2016

is making it appear as though Bernie is initiating attacks.

So, this positions Hillary as the victim, and it will also make it ok for them to lie about him about whatever they decide to lie about.

Bernie just has to accept that the corporate-establishment media is going to do everything they can to help the corporate-establishment candidate win.

That's just the way it is.

He's not going to get fair treatment. In fact, the media is going to be used as a weapon against Bernie.

We just have to work hard to get our message out. So many people don't pay attention to what the MSM says. Make phone calls for Bernie in New York. Find out how you can help. We need to be proactive and positive and work to make this happen for Bernie.

The media will never be fair to Bernie. They just won't.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
13. I heard a clip of him - so funny - he said when the media used to think he didn't have a chance
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:02 AM
Apr 2016

they were nice to him. Now they are not so nice to him.



malletgirl02

(1,523 posts)
17. The New York Times fell in the same trap they laid for Sanders.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:04 AM
Apr 2016

There is an old proverb about someone digging a hole for someone else to fall in, but the hole digger ends up falling in the hole themselves. This is what happen here. The Times wrote an article to make Bernie Sanders to look bad, but it is the times that ends up coming out bad in this. The reason is they are coming out on record supporting Bill Clinton's racist rant. Not only that it shows just how much of a lie the whole, "Sanders and his supporters are racist" meme was, when you have Bill Clinton saying things that are actually racist.

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