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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:04 AM Apr 2016

About all those guns coming from Vermont to NYC...

“Hillary Clinton ratcheted up her attacks on Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders’ gun control record Monday,” capitalnewyork.com reports, “telling a private gathering of state legislators near the State Capitol that many of the guns used by New York criminals come across the border from the Green Mountain State.” That’s news to me. And to the Democratic lawmakers, lobbyists and other “party stalwarts” who gathered to hear the presumptive nominee pontificate. Such as Buffalo State Senator Tim Kennedy . . .


“She said she wants to work to get illegal guns off the street and said it’s been part of her work as an elected official to strengthen laws to keep America safe. She said that it’s going to be coming out in the very near future that many of the catastrophes that have taken human lives in the State of New York have been the product of guns coming over the border from Vermont,” said State Sen. Tim Kennedy, a Democrat from Buffalo. “That’s the first I heard it. I think it caught everybody’s attention and we’re looking forward to learning more about it.”


You know the Watergate thing, right? Must have two sources. Well, here’s another one:

“She said that many of the guns that are found to be involved in crimes in this state are found to have their origins in Vermont,” said Assemblyman Kevin Cahill, a Democrat from Kingston. “The implication was just that many of the guns that are involved in crimes in this state come from Vermont.”






In 2014, out of 7,686 firearms recovered and traced in New York, only 55 were first purchased in Vermont, according to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. That’s compared to 371 that came from Pennsylvania, 395 that were sourced to Virginia, and 386 from Georgia, government data shows.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/04/robert-farago/hillary-clinton-vermont-a-major-source-of-new-yorks-crime-guns/

HilLiary strikes again...
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Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
1. This will just play into the hands of rural gun owners. They will be taking note.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:06 AM
Apr 2016

You can rest assured.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. It's like she doesn't know we have the internet. And common sense.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:08 AM
Apr 2016

Or morals and scruples and principles.

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
5. Ah yes, the old Hillary ducking Vermont sniper fire
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:13 AM
Apr 2016

ricocheted off the Statue of Liberty towards the East 34th St Heliport story.

Who can forget that?

astrophuss42

(290 posts)
6. It's a whopper
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:15 AM
Apr 2016

Guess she's looking to alienate those of us liberals who do believe in gun rights so she can drum up more outrage on behalf of those lost to someone experiencing mental illness symptoms. What was she going to do about that? The ACA did not fill that treatment gap.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
8. She already has her minions backing and filling for her
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:26 AM
Apr 2016

Tuesday, Gov. Peter Shumlin, a supporter of Clinton's, chalked up her comments-- in part-- to election year rhetoric.

"It is campaign season, therefore, things are sometimes said by all the candidates that sometimes aren't entirely accurate. I would just say this, I think you'd have a hard time convincing Vermonters that New York's crime problems are coming from Vermont," said Shumlin, D-Vermont.

Shumlin also said that there's no question that heroin in Vermont comes from out of state and is often brought in by New Yorkers.

http://www.wcax.com/story/31650376/clinton-claims-ny-criminals-get-guns-from-vt

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
18. What's the meaning of many?? Isn't 55 -many-??
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:51 PM
Apr 2016

We're parsing with the master parser... it isn't that Vermont isn't the source of 'many' guns, it's just that many-er came from PA and many-er more came from GA and VA.

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