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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:45 AM Apr 2016

Riddle Time: What is the definition of Psychological Manipulation?

Answer: Hillary Clinton

*First she used the 9/11 victims to defend her ties to Wall Street at a debate.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-invokes-911-2nd-time-defending-wall/story?id=35511652

*Then she used the parents of murdered black children in the south.

*Starting tomorrow she is going to use the parents of the children that were murdered at Sandy Hook to attack Bernie on guns.

From 14 Signs of a Psychological Manipulator:
Psychological manipulation can be defined as the exercise of undue influence through mental distortion and emotional exploitation, with the intention to seize power, control, benefits and/or privileges at the victim’s expense.

And then there is this:
Manipulators can have various possible motivations, including but not limited to:
the need to advance their own purposes and personal gain at virtually any cost to others
a strong need to attain feelings of power and superiority in relationships with others
a want and need to feel in control (aka. control freak)
a desire to gain a feeling of power over others in order to raise their perception of self-esteem
boredom, or growing tired of his/her surroundings, seeing it as a game more than hurting others


Tomorrow this place will be full of the victimization of the parents of Sandy Hook. It will be used to attack Bernie because he doesn't believe it is the gun manufacturer's fault that a gun that was purchased legally was used in a murder.
So remember when you see all the attacks on Bernie over this issue, Hillary Clinton is playing mind games.

It does not mean for one second that our hearts are not broken for the tragedy of Sandy Hook. That was one of the most, if not the most horrific attacks by a nutcase with a gun ever.
When we ignore the attacks on Bernie all it means that we will not let Hillary Clinton manipulate our emotions by using the victims of a tragedy for political gain.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/communication-success/201510/14-signs-psychological-and-emotional-manipulation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_manipulation#Motivations_of_manipulators

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TM99

(8,352 posts)
1. Agreed.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:58 AM
Apr 2016

However, you need to make one correction.

You state the gun store's fault. The legislation he voted yay for was for the gun manufacturer and not the gun stores. Two very different things altogether really.

Otherwise, I am in complete agreement, and we have already seen this for months actually on this site.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
4. I'm not sure that completely captures his thoughts.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 05:18 AM
Apr 2016

Not trying to speak for him, but he has pointed out the local gun dealers in Vermont as his primary concern. The history of that effort culminating in the 2006 bill did include attempted legal action against gun dealers.

"The New York suit was part of a legal experiment in the late 1990s and early 2000s to curb gun violence by holding manufacturers, distributors, and dealers liable for gun violence in cities across the country. Though many of these suits sought damages, the ultimate goal of the litigation was to force the industry to oversee its supply chain—to exercise "reasonable care" by taking steps that could preclude a foreseeable harm to others—and help cut off easy access to guns for straw purchasers and traffickers.

Beginning in the 1980s, victims of gun violence and their families started filing lawsuits against the stores that sold guns to their assailants, and later against the manufacturers as well. Then, in the late 1990s, cities and counties started to get involved. Throughout the decade, states had filed a deluge of lawsuits against the tobacco industry for deceptively marketing a deadly product, and some ultimately succeeded in winning historic settlements in the late 1990s. The tobacco litigation held a major industry accountable for the dangers of its products and forced producers to the bargaining table. Lawyers at the Brady Center wondered if guns could be the next tobacco.

On October 30, 1998, New Orleans became the first city to file suit against a gun manufacturer. A few weeks later, Chicago became the second. Philadelphia Mayor Ed Rendell, a Democrat who led a gun violence task force within the US Conference of Mayors at the time, urged other cities to follow their lead. Within a year, 30 cities and counties had filed suits against more than 40 gun manufacturers.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/01/bernie-sanders-vote-gun-immunity-black-market

I'm not well informed on this topic, and I only scanned a couple of articles before settling on this one as seeming most informative.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
5. A drunk driver gets behind the wheel of a car and drives the car into a crowd of people, killing
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:25 AM
Apr 2016

all the innocent people. Do you sue the driver of that car or do you sue the auto manufacturer who made the car?

HER STRATEGY IS A LOSING STRATEGY! No one believes gun MANUFACTURERS should be held responsible for people using their guns illegally! That's just stupid! That line of attack didn't work before and it won't work this time, but it may piss off an entire nation that that woman would use murdered children to score political points! It's a DISGUSTING TACTIC!

No one believes anything she says anyway.

Go Bernie! You've got her injured and on the ropes in round 9! Knock-Out time!

SEVEN out of the last EIGHT races...after Saturday, that will be EIGHT OUT OF NINE RACES and WY is going to be ANOTHER LANDSLIDE VICTORY! I don't think the people of this country want a LIAR, CHEATER AND WARMONGER to be their president.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
7. Using the same logic, the manufacturers of Kitchen Knives could be held liabel
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:33 PM
Apr 2016

if their product is used to injure or kill someone.
Many Domestic Violence cases involve kitchen knives.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
6. Hmmmm. Using 9/11 to manipulate people.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:57 AM
Apr 2016

Hard not to see the similarities between that and a certain former president.

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