What did you do in the 1960s?

[Playinghardball]

[Thinkingabout]

1. Let's see, Bernie was born in 1941, Hillary was born in 1947, so it means Bernie

should have been out of high school by 1960, Hillary was in high school, at the time Goldwater was running Hillary was 16 and had a birthday right before the election. Now just what are you implying?

[HassleCat]

4. Timeline

Bernie was in college when he organized the sit-ins. Hillary was a "Goldwater Girl" in 1964. Since that was over 50 years ago, I'm not sure what impact it has now. I guess it implies Sanders always had good instincts, and Clinton had to acquire hers over time?

[RoccoR5955]

14. Meanwhile...

Didn't Goldwater encourage segregation? So wasn't someone working for Goldwater also encouraging segregation?

[elleng]

2. I graduated from high school and college in the '60s.

Martin O'Malley was born in 1963. He served as the 61st Governor of Maryland, from 2007 to 2015. Prior to being elected as Governor, he served as the Mayor of Baltimore from 1999 to 2007, having previously served as a Baltimore City Councilor from 1991 to 1999. A member of the Democratic Party, he served as the Chair of the Democratic Governors Association from 2011 to 2013.

[hootinholler]

5. Hi Ellen

Did you realize this is the Bernie group?

[HassleCat]

3. OK, but...

Hillary was way cuter than Bernie in the 1960s. Might even be true now. I know that's not supposed to matter, but voters are influenced by such things. Never underestimate the superficiality of the electorate.

[LiberalElite]

9. What does their looks 50 years ago have to do with anything at all?

I shouldn't be encouraging you but I had to ask anyway.

[HassleCat]

10. I don't know

But stuff like this influences voters. They've been making fun of Bernie for his frizzy hair, cracking puns about the "fringe on the fringe candidate" and so on.

[LiberalElite]

11. Well Fuck Them. In '92 it was Hillary's headbands. That didn't work too well did it? nt

[Robbins]

6. Why is it

that Hillary supporters can come into bernie supporters group and trash talk him and us.

now forget about her as goldwater girl how could some work for Mcgovern and later praise Kissinger.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

7. I got born.

I'm still not sure it was worth it.

[Demeter]

8. Grade School

My whole life was before me....what a disappointment that's been!

[Le Taz Hot]

12. I don't remember.

[delrem]

13. I'm a bit younger than both of them.

But I remember acing an essay I wrote for grade school "English" class, where I referenced a couple of the clearest lines of MLK's "I have a dream" speech. I confess, at the time I didn't really have a clue what was going on or what it meant, but I'd heard of slavery in the USA (I lived in the Canadian hinterlands ... ) and of MLK and the struggle he was leading, and the high mark I got wasn't for showing any insight but just for showing that I was somewhat aware and was moved.

Let's be clear, I was a selfish little asshole having almost zero self-awareness, and having zero cultural awareness of the Canadian racism that I lived in and which was part and parcel of the same common ground (expanding European racist colonialism). But I consider that I had a saving grace.

I didn't instinctively gravitate toward Goldwater-type thinking and away from MLK-type thinking, as I learned of politics through those years. In fact the opposite happened and it didn't happen at a level that was open to "debate". It was instinctive. It was my innate ethic that guided me -- and I still trust that instinct to guide me through the shoals.

I knew, at the time, that Goldwater was a racist of the first order, and that his racism was wrong.