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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 08:22 PM Jun 2015

Dem Strategist: We Shouldn’t Be Surprised if Sanders Beats Clinton in Iowa and New Hampshire

June 21, 2015 10:20 am

Democratic strategist Maria Cardona posed the idea Sunday that frontrunner Hillary Clinton could lose critical early-state nomination races in Iowa and New Hampshire to socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.).

Cardona, a self-described Clinton supporter, said on ABC’s This Week that no one should be surprised if Sanders wins both races.

This could be a sign of just how worried Clinton’s camp is about Sanders, who has garnered huge enthusiasm among the left-wing base of the party.

Host Jonathan Karl teased the discussion with clips of Sanders supporters crowing about their man. He polled well in a recent survey of New Hampshire voters, just 10 points behind the woman expected to coast to the nomination.

“I don’t think we’ve seen more enthusiasm for any candidate, Democrat or Republican, than we’ve seen for Bernie Sanders,” Karl said. “Maria, what is going on … Hillary Clinton, supposed to be a coronation here. She now finds all the energy in the Democratic primary right now is with a 73-year-old self-described socialist from Vermont.”

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http://freebeacon.com/politics/dem-strategist-we-shouldnt-be-surprised-if-sanders-beats-clinton-in-iowa-and-new-hampshire/

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Dem Strategist: We Shouldn’t Be Surprised if Sanders Beats Clinton in Iowa and New Hampshire (Original Post) n2doc Jun 2015 OP
Yes - I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jun 2015 #1
No more settling for a mediocre candidate.No more family political dynasties. Oldenuff Jun 2015 #16
Yes - All Too True cantbeserious Jun 2015 #17
Trying to downplay it, so when he wins they don't look like it was unexpected peacebird Jun 2015 #2
They will still be suprised when he wins the Nomination and the general. Vincardog Jun 2015 #22
Think so too Nite Owl Jun 2015 #3
"supposed to be a coronation here". Well there's part of the problem right there. arcane1 Jun 2015 #4
Yes. "Democratic" and "coronation" RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #7
Yay! SoapBox Jun 2015 #5
They referred to Hugo Chavez as "strongman" instead of "president" with amazing consistency arcane1 Jun 2015 #9
Yes! There were some very strict Hugo rules. RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #11
No Surprise here Grilled Charlie Jun 2015 #6
In fairness, HRC's message also resonates with hawks and unapologetic corporatists RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #8
As to the Supreme Court threat from Clinton fans: Divernan Jun 2015 #14
Don't ever underestimate Bernie azmom Jun 2015 #10
This is TOTALLY UNFAIR to Clinton MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #12
Snort! Scuba Jun 2015 #15
Ruh-roh! HRC's internal polling not lookin' good for her chances? Divernan Jun 2015 #13
Iowa is a caucus state, which means only the most driven Democrats participate in the process. pnwmom Jun 2015 #18
I won't be. I will be surprised if he doesn't win. sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #19
"our low polling is evidence only of our ultimate victory!" MisterP Jun 2015 #20
Go Bernie! colsohlibgal Jun 2015 #21
 

Oldenuff

(582 posts)
16. No more settling for a mediocre candidate.No more family political dynasties.
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 11:11 PM
Jun 2015

If we don't stand up and say we don't want any more Wall Street candidates,then we are screwed for now and evermore..

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
2. Trying to downplay it, so when he wins they don't look like it was unexpected
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 08:27 PM
Jun 2015

That way they hope to stop any Bernie-mentum.

Fat chance!

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
4. "supposed to be a coronation here". Well there's part of the problem right there.
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 08:28 PM
Jun 2015

Sanders is going to EARN it!

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
5. Yay!
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 08:29 PM
Jun 2015

And I see that it's the usual...

HRC is described as "frontrunner".

Bernie is described as a "socialist"...and (I., Vt.)

Maybe I'm too sensitive but I'm over the labels for Bernie.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
9. They referred to Hugo Chavez as "strongman" instead of "president" with amazing consistency
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 08:45 PM
Jun 2015

Fortunately, Bernie is here to speak for himself and set these idiots straight

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
11. Yes! There were some very strict Hugo rules.
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 08:51 PM
Jun 2015

You had to mention either Cuba or Castro at least once per article. Also, he lived in a "palace" (unlike our humble White House).

 

Grilled Charlie

(57 posts)
6. No Surprise here
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 08:30 PM
Jun 2015

Bernie's message resonates with everyone. Hillary's message only resonates with Dems who are afraid that any other option puts an R in the white house...Supreme court...yadda yadda

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
8. In fairness, HRC's message also resonates with hawks and unapologetic corporatists
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 08:41 PM
Jun 2015

Welcome to DU, Grilled Charlie!

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
14. As to the Supreme Court threat from Clinton fans:
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 11:08 PM
Jun 2015

How incredibly gullible, naive, blind to political realities and/or lacking in worldly experience can someone be who does not recognize that corporate/Wall Street donations/quid pro quos will come home to roost with a profiteering vengeance on any presidential candidate who has accepted tens of millions of dollars from them in a combination of campaign donations, personal payments for speeches to said candidate and spouse, and "gifts" to said candidate's family "non-profit" organization. Nowhere is this more vital to said corporate interests than in appointments to the Supreme Court.

Here's the script, kiddos!

Corporate input on Supreme Court appointments:

"Here's the deal. Your supreme court nominations can be soft on social issues. We don't give a fuck if gays marry or women can get abortions. Makes no difference to our profiteering. But by god they better leave Citizens United in place and not approve prosecution of war crimes."

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
12. This is TOTALLY UNFAIR to Clinton
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 10:50 PM
Jun 2015

Bernie's had decades to practice being a Liberal; Clinton's doing a fantastic job for someone who's only been at it a few months. Give her some time.

Regards,

TWM

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
13. Ruh-roh! HRC's internal polling not lookin' good for her chances?
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 11:05 PM
Jun 2015

She will hang on to the bitter end, to keep adding $$$ to her campaign fund - which she gets to keep if she drops out of the race - subject to some spending restrictions (which are variably enforced) but still quite useful.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
18. Iowa is a caucus state, which means only the most driven Democrats participate in the process.
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 11:20 PM
Jun 2015

I'm in a caucus state, too -- and participating requires a huge effort. Only the most dedicated show up for the hours of (boring, tedious, repetitive) proceedings involved, so the result isn't very representative of the state as a whole. Most voters aren't hyper-political.

(The one and only time I participated, none of the people who had voted for the winning candidate wanted to represent our caucus in the State capitol -- which was the required next step. So we agreed to let a person who had voted for a different candidate go there and represent us . . . I have no idea how that ended up working out. Anyway, the whole process was so ridiculous that I could never make myself do it again. Instead, I just vote in the "beauty contest" primary.)`

And New Hampshire is right next door to Vermont, so NH voters are very familiar with Sanders. I won't be surprised if they vote for him, too.

But South Carolina, Nevada, etc. -- those states will be a different story.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
20. "our low polling is evidence only of our ultimate victory!"
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 12:50 AM
Jun 2015

and that's why everyone sees the official faction of the party as a desperate, glassy-eyed quasi-cult out of touch with what the people need

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
21. Go Bernie!
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 11:09 AM
Jun 2015

Loved John Fugelsang's statement about whether the US will support a socialist Jew - "we celebrate a socialist Jew every December 25th."

I really hope this momentum keeps picking up steam.

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