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Triana

(22,666 posts)
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 05:08 PM Mar 2016

Wall Street expert shocks CNBC as he states Bernie Sanders is best for economy (VIDEO)

Asher Edelman founded Mack, Bushnell, and Edelman in 1969, and served as CEO. Edelman’s Wall Street businesses included investment banking, money management, and derivatives trading. In 1988, he taught a course called “Corporate Raiding – The Art of War” at Columbia Business School, using as his textbook Sun Tzu’s The Art of War. The character of Gordon Gekko in Wall Street was based in part on Edelman.

Asher Edelman, a Wall Street financial expert, explains with economics in very simple term why Bernie Sander is better for the economy. It was evident that he caught some of the wards of the plutocracy on the panel by surprise.

One of the panelists confronted Edelman’s past statements that America has been in a recession for 15 years. His response was irrefutable.

“I think it is pretty straightforward,” Asher Edelman said. “The average American has not had an increase in pay in over fifteen years. But things cost more in the marketplaces. He has been in a recession for fifteen years. Nothing’s changed for him. On the top, we are not in a recession. But eighty percent of Americans have been in a recession for at least fifteen years.”

One of the panelists then stated that nobody realizes we are in a recession. Adelman hit back. “Who is your nobody,” Adelman asked. Another panelist attempted to come to her rescue implying that Adelman was trying an economic justice argument and not a strictly economic argument.


THE REST (with video):

http://egbertowillies.com/2016/03/11/asher-edelman-bernie-sanders-economy/
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Wall Street expert shocks CNBC as he states Bernie Sanders is best for economy (VIDEO) (Original Post) Triana Mar 2016 OP
Everyone except Hillary's 3rd Way Smear Machine knows Bernie is best for the economy FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #1
K&R LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #2
Hey LiberalArkie Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #36
Probably not. What is insessions? LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #37
It was a political message board that closed. Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #40
Video is worth watching GardeningGal Mar 2016 #3
Agreed Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #4
I did! GardeningGal Mar 2016 #8
Whoopsie.... Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #5
You do realize this guy is Blue Idaho Mar 2016 #6
Did you bother to read the OP? n/t passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #9
"Greed is Good" Blue Idaho Mar 2016 #11
My point being that the OP pointed out that passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #21
So to be clear.. Blue Idaho Mar 2016 #22
He has nothing to do with Bernie passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #24
Unless I just missed something... Blue Idaho Mar 2016 #25
He merely claimed that Bernie is the only one passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #26
Scared? Angry? Blue Idaho Mar 2016 #28
You were either upset by this passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #30
The more important question is... Blue Idaho Mar 2016 #31
I don't. passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #32
So what? ReRe May 2016 #41
You do realize Blue Idaho May 2016 #43
It's bran new to me! ReRe May 2016 #44
This video is PRICELESS! It deserves it's place in the Great Archive because we WILL Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #7
K&R fbc Mar 2016 #10
i've argued this with consevatives since 1980. rickford66 Mar 2016 #12
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #13
You Tube Video Here cantbeserious Mar 2016 #14
Recommended - Its so strange how pundits need to be told this again and again Baobab Mar 2016 #15
This is the best part... Nickel79 Mar 2016 #16
And apparently it's freaking out some Hillary supporters. n/t passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #23
K&R!!!!!! zentrum Mar 2016 #17
Recommend! KoKo Mar 2016 #18
The left always has to pick up the pieces, after the right and its Joe Chi Minh Mar 2016 #19
I've always said the Republicans take over and pillage and then Dems get elected for cleanup. cyberpj Mar 2016 #29
An interesting point. PS : Hello, Sweetie yourself. Joe Chi Minh Mar 2016 #33
After checking your profile and noticing the UK am I safe in assuming you get it? cyberpj Mar 2016 #34
Probably not. I'm an old geezer technically - but I'm actually in my late twenties. And Joe Chi Minh Mar 2016 #35
Well then, I'm glad I have this chance to clear up this interaction... cyberpj Mar 2016 #38
Wow. A pretty interesting life ! I'm now 75 and promised my wife I wouldn't marry again Joe Chi Minh Mar 2016 #39
He's wrong, the average American has not had a pay raise for 35 years. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #20
This has only 2,000+ it needs to go on twitter and reddit.. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #27
Asher Edelman ReRe May 2016 #42
 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
1. Everyone except Hillary's 3rd Way Smear Machine knows Bernie is best for the economy
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 05:16 PM
Mar 2016

and to them Wall St is the economy

 

Jenny_92808

(1,342 posts)
40. It was a political message board that closed.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:28 PM
Mar 2016

I miss many of my friends there. Time for new friendships, my friend

 

Jenny_92808

(1,342 posts)
4. Agreed
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 05:43 PM
Mar 2016

Did you notice the look on the face (and mouth distortion) from the guy with the white shirt, When "Bernie Sanders" came out of his mouth.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
5. Whoopsie....
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 05:59 PM
Mar 2016



but some poor producer probably got fired for booking this expert


IT's gotta send a pucker through the Camp Weather vane sphincter too

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
21. My point being that the OP pointed out that
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:49 PM
Mar 2016

Gordon Geckko was based in part on Edelman. And you post a question as if you hadn't even read it.

and yes, sometimes politics does create strange bedfellows. But in this case, he's just reporting on his own understanding of what makes the economy strong, he's not identifying himself with any candidate. But from his experience, and what he says about the velocity of money...he's absolutely correct.

Hillary apparently does not "get it", and I'm thinking a lot of her supporters have pretty comfortable incomes (some here have even admitted as much) and they don't "get it" either. They are only interested in protecting the wealth at the top, or those rising to the top. Screw everyone else. We need peons who are desperate enough to work for the low wages we want to pay, and the establishment is right on track, as are the trade policies (which Clinton will be happy to support if she's elected).

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
22. So to be clear..
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:52 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie's Wallstreet Insider, Corporate Raider, and Top 1% of the Top 1%ers is better than Hillary's Wall Street Insider?

No skin off my nose.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
24. He has nothing to do with Bernie
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:03 PM
Mar 2016

He is just stating a well known economic fact that many people tend to forget. But all economists know this.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
25. Unless I just missed something...
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:10 PM
Mar 2016

He just endorsed him, on a talk show, on TV.

So let's all try to keep track of who is getting the Wallstreet Insider, Corporate Raider endorsements these days.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
26. He merely claimed that Bernie is the only one
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:19 PM
Mar 2016

who is running on a platform that will change the economic picture and the velocity of money. He did not say he was endorsing Sanders for President.

Maybe he is. Maybe he even wants to vote for him. But that is not what he said. He was asked who would be best for the economy and he answered honestly.

You sound scared, or angry. Why would his answer to a question make you scared or angry?

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
28. Scared? Angry?
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:31 PM
Mar 2016

Project much?

Sure sounds like an endorsement to me. Look - like I said before - if your happy, I'm happy. No skin off my nose.

Be well.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
30. You were either upset by this
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:48 PM
Mar 2016

because it goes against Hillary's philosophy, or you were hoping to smear Bernie by insinuating he has an 'in" with Wall Street, just like Hillary, because of this guy's answer to a direct question on economics.

This guy works on Wall Street (or did...don't know if he still does)...but he obviously understands a lot about economics theory, as his answer shows. Robert Reich, or Richard Wolff have both said this, probably many times. Like I said, it's a well known fact of economics. The trickle down economics of the Republicans has long been debunked, even though there are economists out there that try to cling to it.

It's actually rather unusual to hear a Wall Street biggy admit the truth about this fact of economics, because this goes against their methodology, of needing bigger and wealthier corporations (meaning offshoring jobs) to feed the greed. And Hillary is into Wall Street and trickle down economics...or at least she's never fought against it.

So yeah...you can pretend that you don't care...no skin...right!

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
32. I don't.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:03 PM
Mar 2016

You are the one who involved yourself in this discussion because you felt the need to point out Bernie's connection to a Wall Street "endorsement". You know (as do I) that Hillary gets called out on her Wall Street connections, so you thought you could use this against Bernie...but it doesn't work, because this guy is not saying what a typical Wall street guy would say.

In fact what he is saying is beneficial to Bernie, whereas Hillary's Wall street connections are not beneficial to her, because they would never admit that this guy just might be right. They would say just the opposite, while endorsing Hillary. And that does not look good for her.

The point is, if you weren't scared of or angry at Bernie, you wouldn't waste your time trying to smear Bernie over something as silly as this, and then try to feign indifference.


ReRe

(10,597 posts)
41. So what?
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:34 AM
May 2016

WTF does it matter if Edelman endorsed Bernie? Edelman isn't David effing Duke! He's not Michael effing Tyson. He's not that effing shit-eating-grin jerk that was on Bill Maher tonight that endorsed Trump.

Asher Edelman doesn't know Bernie Sanders personally. What. Is. THE. Problem?

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
43. You do realize
Sun May 29, 2016, 03:15 PM
May 2016

You are responding to a post that is now two and a half months old at this point - right?

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
7. This video is PRICELESS! It deserves it's place in the Great Archive because we WILL
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:08 PM
Mar 2016

see this again. Off to the FB with you...

rickford66

(5,524 posts)
12. i've argued this with consevatives since 1980.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:45 PM
Mar 2016

And, the Wall Street pundits still haven't figured it out ??

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
13. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations!
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:17 PM
Mar 2016

This guy has seen beyond the bubble. The others are still in the bubble and refuse to imagine an alternative viewpoint.

It's actually a very simple concept. People with little means spend everything cent they earn and then some. Nothing is as stimulative to the economy as giving money to people that have little in terms of disposable income. It is not unusual to find that some people are driving twenty year old cars. The average car on the road today is right around ten years old! Families often don't have a flat screen TV. They don't own a smart phone. If these families earned more money they would upgrade their consumer goods stimulating the economy (big time).

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
15. Recommended - Its so strange how pundits need to be told this again and again
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:18 PM
Mar 2016

Also, Democrats are consistently better for the economy than Republicans, again, the media forgets this and one gets the impression that the media is trying to give people the impression the opposite is true. Also, Democrats have historically been more fiscally responsible, deficits fall during Democratic administrations and rise during Republican ones.

 

Nickel79

(81 posts)
16. This is the best part...
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:26 PM
Mar 2016

...of what Edelman said, which is not included in the OP:

“When you have the top one percent getting money, they spend five-ten percent of what they earn. When you have the lower end of the economy getting money, they spend a hundred, or a hundred and ten percent of what they earn. As you’ve had a transfer of wealth to the top, and a transfer of income to the top, you have a shrinking consumer base, basically, and you have a shrinking velocity of money.”

http://usuncut.com/politics/gordon-gekko-sanders/

He explains it in a manner literally anyone with a working brain can grasp, and I absolutely love that.



Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
19. The left always has to pick up the pieces, after the right and its
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:41 PM
Mar 2016

ever-emergent, right-wing kleptocracy have pillaged the country. Roosevelt and the Democrats salvaging the nation from the Depression ; Attlee and the Labour Party in the Britain after WWII.

This time, they face a catastrophic economy, as a result of the said kleptocracy, by hook and by crook, shrugging off all restraints, checks and balances, and dramatically polarizing the country's wealth, to the enrichment of themselves and the wholesale immiseration of the populace.

Long before Karl Marx, Adam Smith had warned against the compulsive recidivism of the merchant class, always looking for ways and excuses for conspiring against the common good. But he could never have dreamed of the actual stratospheric level of villainy that was finally to eventuate.

 

cyberpj

(10,794 posts)
29. I've always said the Republicans take over and pillage and then Dems get elected for cleanup.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:48 PM
Mar 2016

In my lifetime it's been really obvious.

Don't know why it hasn't become some sort of theme song on how to tell them apart!

 

cyberpj

(10,794 posts)
34. After checking your profile and noticing the UK am I safe in assuming you get it?
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:08 PM
Mar 2016

The tag line goes with the avatar.

It's not me just being fresh, lol!

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
35. Probably not. I'm an old geezer technically - but I'm actually in my late twenties. And
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 09:42 PM
Mar 2016

you just keep encouraging me. The wink slays me ! Doesn't matter that the drawing's a bit 'minimalist' ! Even when they say it patronisingly/satirically, American women have a way of calling you, 'honey' that seems a bit special. Like when to female friends and relatives, my late wife would sometimes refer to me as 'His Lordship'.

 

cyberpj

(10,794 posts)
38. Well then, I'm glad I have this chance to clear up this interaction...
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:13 AM
Mar 2016

I'm a Doctor Who fan; especially the newer reboot (although I watched the older versions as a kid with my older brother).

My avatar is of a Doctor Who character named River Song. She is wearing the spacesuit when she first crosses The Doctor's timeline on the new show, and although she knows him (intimately) from times they have been together in her past (revealed later that they were married) he doesn't recognize her at all because in his own timeline he hasn't yet met her. Her standard greeting each time she sees him is "Hello Sweetie....."

I'm sorry to hear you're only in your late twenties but have experienced the loss of a spouse; that's a hard one. I hope time and life will again bring you happiness.

Yes, American women can be pretty forward. Although I come from British stock so I also understand "proper reserve in one's emotions", lol. The wink was about you 'getting' the Doctor Who signature line, to illustrate a private joke that not many at DU get. I just assumed everyone in the UK was a Doctor Who fan.

Nope. No flirting here. I'm in my early sixties and found the love of my life at age 43. Another Anglophile (both of us fall into that category because The Beatles exploded into our teen years and we haven't stopped loving Great Britain ever since). Dear husband has actually been to London as a guest of singer Lisa Stansfield after he created and managed her website for several years. And we both attended the US premiere of her film Swing, meeting both Lisa and Huge Speer.

Check it out if you haven't seen it, it's a lot of fun (or rather, I should say, it's brilliant!):


Anyway, I'm glad I was able to clear things up.
You're safe with me.
Now off you go!



Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
39. Wow. A pretty interesting life ! I'm now 75 and promised my wife I wouldn't marry again
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:59 PM
Mar 2016

so, that's it.

Anyway I'm old and decrepit, but not averse(!) to getting 'the glad eye', and a spot of flirting by girls young enough to be my grand daughters. They're by far the bigger tear-aways it seems to me. We tend to be more nervous in that regard, I think. I'm glad you're happily married though. Can't beat it.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
42. Asher Edelman
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:54 AM
May 2016
K&R

This needs to be bumped back up. Needs much more conversation on this thread!

Thank you Triana. I missed this back on March 13th!
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