Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumSanders has accomplished ALL THIS with every pundit ignoring him or claiming he can't win.
As a thought experiment, can you imagine how different this race would be if political reporters, pundits, bloggers, etc, said "Sanders could win" ?
Even now, the narrative is still more like "Wow, Sanders is exceeding my expectations! But still, sadly, he can't win"
If there were a significant amount of Sanders-related coverage that framed him as real competition, he'd be doing even better than he is already.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)They'll survive. But they're very upset.
davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)That's one I really hadn't considered.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)I tell them, just about everyone narrating the "news" is a multi-millionaire working for a multi-multi-millionaire. What possible conflict could they have.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,728 posts)are not listening to MSM. They are not watching their ads. They have not figured out the "inter tubes thing" yet.
Bernie did an AMA on Reddit back in December 2013. They were trying to draft him back then. MSM is too out of touch with the people now and the same with the pundits and the party leaders.
[]SenSanders[S] 2490 points 2 years ago
Not voting for the USAPatriot Act was one of the better votes that I've ever cast. In my view, the NSA is out of control and is very clearly acting in an unconstitutional manner. Terrorism remains a serious issue and we must do all that we can to protect the American people, but we don't have to do it through a massive invasion of privacy rights or undermining the constitutional rights of the American people. I am going to be working as hard as I can to pass the strongest legislation possible to end the abuses of the NSA and other intelligence agencies. If we are a "free country," then we cannot have the U.S. government, or for that matter the private sector, invading the privacy rights or our citizens.
[]mattmccarty 178 points 2 years ago
Thank you for replying Senator Sanders! I hope I can vote for you in 2016.
[]Vermonty_Python 182 points 2 years ago*
Join us over in /r/SandersForPresident. It's only a few weeks old, but we're deadset on getting a true progressive liberal elected President.
EDIT: It's been brought to my attention that, apparently, I'm a total shill sock-puppet for Senator Sanders. This is a very very false claim. My normal account has personally identifying information, and I didn't want it to be tied to my role as moderator.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)phantom power
(25,966 posts)First, here's an excerpt:
2. Shes unlikely to lose her pledged delegate advantage at any point, so a mass defection of superdelegates simply isnt going to happen barring some scandal or health scare.
3. Sanders cannot put much of a dent in her lead by winning narrow victories even in big important states like Ohio, Illinois and Wisconsin.
4. Yet, Sanders should remain mathematically alive all the way to the convention.
5. Based on Chris Bowerss projections, Sanders is on track to win almost 1,800 of the 4,762 delegates to the convention. This would be 38% of the total delegates.
After his upset win in Michigan last night, its certainly realistic to believe that Sanders can do substantially better than 38%, but its simply not realistic to believe that he can win. Still, if roughly 40% of the delegates in Philadelphia are pledged to Sanders, thats going to be impressive and theyll have tremendous influence over the platform and the rule-writing committees. It may be four years before you see how these delegates have had influence over how the party conducts its presidential nominating process, but they will have their influence.
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2016/3/9/104241/6197
Now, on the one hand he says Sanders is "mathematically alive all the way to convention." but then he says "it's simply not realistic to believe he can win."
Well, 48 hours ago, it was "not realistic" to believe he was going to fucking win MI, either. And yet, here's the headline he used:
"Sanders Can't Win, But Has Reason to Stay In"
That, right there, is what I'm talking about. The objective headline, based on the facts as described in the actual article, is "Sanders might win" But even liberal political bloggers can't bring themselves to type the words. Not even after having just had to admit that Sanders handed Clinton a huge upset victory in MI that nobody was expecting.
Merryland
(1,134 posts)as they turn their pretzel logic into "articles"
NoMoreRepugs
(9,454 posts)imagine if HRC was able to close a 30+ point gap the way Bernie did in Michigan - they'd be demanding Bernie bow out gracefully because the momentum makes it inevitable...
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)True Dems are like women and POC in corporate America; true Dems have to work twice as hard for half as much.
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Now it is time to democratize access to our national resources, including our hospitals, our universities, our political system, and our economy.
Everyone should have access, in spite of their socio-economic hierarchy.
jhart3333
(332 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Giving back to the people the things the government has made for them, like the Constitution says.
jhart3333
(332 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)openly insult voters as ignorant. Didn't catch the name, but he tried to recover with, "Well...they've got their lives to live..." or some such dismissive bullshit.
Some of these people are in the beginnings of a meltdown--a welcome sight.
Merryland
(1,134 posts)but when Chuck Todd and Jonathan Capehart showed up on the screen, had to turn it off immediately. Did notice that Chuck Todd looked quite confounded.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)wealth. We all know these misers never give up a penny when they can steal a fifty, so it really is amazing how the truth has leaked out to the thinking public despite the media lies and spin and omissions.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Starting from the debates...
fbc
(1,668 posts)but have been calling the race since before a single vote was cast
Merryland
(1,134 posts)to be shared between moveon.org & the Bernie campaign. Just knowing what a good & important cause this is going to is a wonderful feeling.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)It's a shit job, but it pays well.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)I'm sure is part of it.
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)That could eliminate their jobs altogether.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)What he has accomplished is nothing short of miraculous.
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democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)She started out with a ton of endorsements, support from state party chairs, fundraising connections, support from interest groups, and a friendly debate and primary calendar. Bernie has had almost no institutional support and has managed to come this far.
Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)The DNC and its leader @DWSweets (of Payday lending lobby support) in her corner.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)I have no doubt in my mind that if he got Trump level coverage, he'd be miles ahead of Hillary.
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)Don't be alarmed. They are just silly little furry creatures wanting to be accepted and loved.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)mountain grammy
(26,644 posts)say it with me, people.. GRASSROOTS! It translates to TURNOUT,another thing the Democratic party used to embrace.
Here's the thing,, grassroots: impossible to poll!
Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)They would still be asking, "But when will he drop out?"
Akicita
(1,196 posts)ballot box to get it.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)The bias is naked and shameless. The media stand for a corrupt establishment pushing an unsustainable sociopolitical agenda that promises the elites substantial short term gain with no plan of what comes next. One might be forgiven if one thinks that these might be the same people who continually blunder us into endless Middle Eastern wars. The elites are, after all, the same people who continually blunder us into endless Middle Eastern wars. They expect short term gain out those wars, and don't have to mourn the loss of the their own sons and daughters who died fighting for their access to somebody else's oil. As for the consequences of their chaos, they just blame their own political stooges and say it's their problem to fix it.
Honestly, the political stooges of the elites should be listed on the commodities exchange. So should broadcast and cable "journalists" reading the provided copy on the corporate Pravda.
The bias of the corporate media is naked and shameless because the elites are naked. They really aren't shameless, since we see them hiding behind corporate logos. The naked emperors are Legs Dimon and Pretty Boy Lloyd, David and Charles Koch and Rex Tillerson, all better known as JPMorganChase, Goldman Sachs, Koch Industries and ExxonMobil. The elites aren't so special. They are made of the same flesh and blood we common folk are. Those things they hide behind aren't real; they're made of nothing organic, just legal documents.
We, the People, aren't stupid. All of us cannot be fooled all of the time. We know the corporate media is lying; we know most politicians don't represent us common folk. We know what tyrants they serve.
It is not possible to in this environment to imagine an unbiased corporate media proclaiming "Bernie can win." When a corporate tyrant makes a prophesy, he expects it to be self-fulfilling. In a democracy, news outlets inform the citizens so that each citizen can think about what might be the best course of action. In tyranny, there are no news outlets, just propaganda outlets that tell the citizens what to think.
We, the People, aren't being fooled by corporate propaganda masquerading as news anymore.
That is why Bernie Sanders, one of today's few authentic politicians and few true democrats, came from 20 or 30 points down in the polls a week ago to win the Michigan primary yesterday.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)I couldn't agree more.