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AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 05:07 AM Feb 2016

All Bernie needs to do is to drag the primary out and let Hillary defeat herself

Hillary is so out of touch and has such poor judgement that it is just a matter of time till she crashes and burns, that her scandals and mistakes consume her. And Bernie will be the only one standing. Hillary is her own worst enemy.

Just look at how Hillary handled Ashley Williams. This article says that it may have cost her the election:

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/02/there-goes-the-firewall-hillary-clintons-response.html

In addition, the more people know of Bernie the more his support goes up, and because its a movement not just a candidacy it has more solidness and momentum. And when Hillary's electability argument collapses, Bernie will get even more support.

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All Bernie needs to do is to drag the primary out and let Hillary defeat herself (Original Post) AZ Progressive Feb 2016 OP
K&R nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #1
KnR SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #2
That's really up to the voters nxylas Feb 2016 #3
Hillary Clinton and Black voters malletgirl02 Feb 2016 #4
Agreed Completely cantbeserious Feb 2016 #5
She will defeat herself tk2kewl Feb 2016 #6
Get out the vote! lasttrip Feb 2016 #7
kick Donkees Feb 2016 #8
thanks Donkees. lasttrip Feb 2016 #10
I'd like to think "superpredators" would hurt her at the polls, but it probably won't Mufaddal Feb 2016 #9
That's why Clinton supporters all keep insisting that this will be wrapped up by Super Tuesday. mhatrw Feb 2016 #11
Team Hill's strategy was always to have this wrapped up by now Hydra Feb 2016 #12

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
3. That's really up to the voters
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:51 AM
Feb 2016

Hopefully, they will continue to postpone the coronation, preferably indefinitely.

malletgirl02

(1,523 posts)
4. Hillary Clinton and Black voters
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:14 AM
Feb 2016

I actually asked a Clinton supporter on GDP why Clinton would be better for black people in regards to policy than Sanders. I never got a straight answer. Now I know why.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
6. She will defeat herself
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:43 AM
Feb 2016

I just hope her collapse doesn't take an extra month or two past th convention

lasttrip

(1,013 posts)
7. Get out the vote!
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:56 AM
Feb 2016

I just received phone bank email today
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 05:40:30 +0000

From: info@berniesanders.com
Subject: Here's what it will take to win


LT-

It's pretty simple. The more voters we contact, the better chance we have to win.
Saturday is the South Carolina primary. Then comes Super Tuesday on March 1st. Several other key state contests happen later in March. This is a crucial time to volunteer.

Volunteer now.

Phone Banking for Bernie - should list all locations near your zip code for you to check out.
Call Voters For Bernie
Every day: Bernie Dialer is available from 10am to 9pm local time

Thank you for everything you are doing to help Bernie win the nomination.
- Team Bernie


app-
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/rally-bernie-sanders-community/id1055201405?mt=8

Peace.
LT

Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
9. I'd like to think "superpredators" would hurt her at the polls, but it probably won't
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:37 AM
Feb 2016

Ultimately, people who already supported her will just say, "Well, that was a long time ago, and it was a crazy time all over America."

I would be very cautious about overestimating its utility. Now, if it were used in ads (which I doubt very much Bernie would allow), then it could have time to hurt her in other primaries, but SC is sewn up as far as I can see. And that's okay. You win some, you lose some. The important thing is fighting a principled fight.

Now, the transcripts--those could hurt her. The more she stonewalls, the worse it looks, especially when the Times (who is in the bag for Hillary) calls her out on it. On the other hand, if she releases them, and if they contain the kind of language that's been reported so far, it may hurt her even more. That's one case where Hillary is her own worst enemy.

Another angle that Bernie's campaign has surprisingly not exploited (and I say surprisingly because to me, at least, it would not constitute a "negative attack&quot is the Walmart connection. I was hoping for months that Bernie would keep mentioning the Waltons and Walmart because he was laying a trap, so to speak. He would keep hammering on that point, and when the time was right, he would say: "and here's why that matters so much: my opponent has received $353K in campaign contributions for this cycle from Alice Walton. And you know what? She likes to say I'm soft on guns. Guess who the biggest gun dealer in this country is? You guessed it. Walmart." -- before going on to also discuss how Walmart exploits workers in low wage zones abroad, has cost jobs here, pays starvation wages, and engages in union busting par excellence. Oh, and how they've faced multiple class action suits for discrimination against female employees! So much for Hillary being the "feminist" choice.

Walmart could be a crippling blow.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
11. That's why Clinton supporters all keep insisting that this will be wrapped up by Super Tuesday.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 05:21 PM
Feb 2016

She is such a bad candidate that the only way she can win is if she starts with huge lead and we call the rest of the game off.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
12. Team Hill's strategy was always to have this wrapped up by now
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:17 AM
Feb 2016

And the have Hillary speak as little as possible before the GE.

They know how dangerous a continuing primary is, especially with the state secrets thing looming over her. They want done ASAP.

I'm perfectly content to wait for all the votes to come in.

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