Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumTim Black, radio host & social commentator, is not very happy with Hillary after Town Hall
&feature=shareQuit parading out our mothers and sisters & instead change your policies to help us. Quit pandering for black people and instead do something for black people.
WARNING he's pissed & uses colorful language.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)I would have been called a racist.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)appalachiablue
(41,144 posts)K & R
Faux pas
(14,681 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)I don't know if that is because he is a decent person, or because the DNC only lets Hillary put people in the audience as props. I suspect both.
jillan
(39,451 posts)sorechasm
(631 posts)Besides, he doesn't need it. A record of sincerity speaks for itself.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)He has every right to be pissed off by her pandering. I couldn't stand to watch her last night. I hope those women know they were being used and pandered to? And I hope the AA community in SC is as disgusted as Tim Black is!
Clinton doesn't give 2 hoots about them. After the election, they won't exist. My gawd I despite the very ground that woman walks on. What a DISGUSTING thing to do - use someone's grief to score political points. Classless and tasteless! Why would they support someone like her?
Prisons for Profits
Wall St.
Fracking
GMOs
BANKRUPTCY Bill which disproportionately hurts poor women and children
Supported Welfare Reform which disproportionately hurts poor women and children
WAR! WAR! WAR!
"Super Predators"
"Come to Heel"
Watch this video and tell me Clinton cares about the AA community:
jillan
(39,451 posts)"Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act," Clinton said. "It took a president to get it done."
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)the only thing missing is 'white president'. Am I a racist too now?
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)And there was more.
Jan. 7, 2008, Clinton effectively killed her relationship with African-American voters with one of the biggest gaffes of her political career. And shes been digging herself out of a hole ever since. Eight years ago today, at a Dover, N.H., campaign rally, a supporter introduced Clinton with the following line: Some people compare one of the other candidates to John F. Kennedy. But he was assassinated. And Lyndon Baines Johnson was the one who actually passed the civil rights legislation.
The introduction was a clear reference to the Kennedy-Martin Luther King Jr.-Obama comparisons that were popular at the time. The Clinton campaign was in a war of words with Obama, trying to paint him as the optimistic dreamer with no real experience, compared with Clintons ability to get things done in the real-world trenches. Nevertheless, the suggestion that a prominent African American with national political aspirations might be assassinated struck many voters, especially African-American voters, as the worst kind of race-baiting from the Clinton campaign.
---snip---
African-American voters, political leaders and journalists were shocked and offended by Clintons comments. She and her supporters had glibly alluded to the assassination of Barack Obama to score political points, a Freudian slip that was missed by no one. This wasnt just a dog whistle to conservative white voters; it was a blaring Klaxon to black voters to ward them off from supporting Obama lest something ... terrible happened.
http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2016/01/jan_7_2008_the_day_hillary_clinton_lost_the_black_vote.html
And then there was...
(CNN) - In what appear to be the New York senator's most blunt comments to date regarding a racial division in the Democratic presidential race, Hillary Clinton suggested Wednesday that "White Americans" are increasingly turning away from Barack Obamas candidacy.
"I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," Clinton said in an interview with USA TODAY.
Clinton cited an Associated Press poll "that found how Senator Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."
"There's a pattern emerging here," she said.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/08/clinton-touts-support-from-white-americans/
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)The woman is unbelievable!
I'm not "getting" why the AA community is supporting her. What am I missing? What has she ever done for them? It makes absolutely zero sense.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)and there were a whole lot of men and women who walked with him. They got the Civil Rights Act passed.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)Johnson was well known as a racist and it was public opinion that made things happen. And MLK and the civil rights movement changed public opinion,
I know this because I lived in those times and saw it happen.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)chalky
(3,297 posts)Or, as we like to say down here in my neck of the woods, "tacky".
It's one thing for them to step forward on their own and say, "I'm supporting Hillary." It's another for her to make them stand up and strut their tragedy for her benefit.
I am trying....TRYING...to stay neutral throughout this whole process. But that sure as hell didn't help her in my eyes.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Kall
(615 posts)but I was quite certain that coming from me, I would have been set upon as a racist BernieBro.
NJCher
(35,685 posts)He's for real, just like Bernie.
No "pointing" gestures for Bernie--or for Tim.
Just in case you don't know, this pointing gesture is suggested to politicians by their handlers. It's supposed to make them look like they recognize someone in the crowd and are "close to the people." It annoys the daylights out of me. It is different from pointing for emphasis.
Even Trump, as unscripted as he is, did it. My class and I watched him Mon. night after his last victory and he was pointing into the crowd. Most of the time, though, his pointing is not like that.
Anyway, back to Tim's message, it is indeed disgraceful for people who have that kind of pain to be used in such a fashion. They are in such grief they will do anything--anything--they can to possibly help. This is why she is taking advantage.
Sickening, really.
Cher
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)For calling it out...the more she gets called out for the pandering, the more people will listen.
And...exactly WTF HAS she done for communities of color????
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Will post a Periscope Later to Detail but Tim Black did a pretty good job!
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)ETA: I'm one of Tim Black's friends on Facebook. I shared this and thanked him for having the balls to speak up.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Merryland
(1,134 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Good question....
....and interesting typo! It's usually the other way 'round. (I love a good typo)
Pharaoh
(8,209 posts)forjusticethunders
(1,151 posts)>use her relatives to pander to black people as if we were stupid
I will maybe start taking all this seriously if she says ON THE RECORD that her support of the Crime Bill was a mistake, that she's sorry for the superpredators line, that 3 strikes was a mistake.
The deaths of the young black people which galvanized Black Lives Matter were caused DIRECTLY by both laws, policies and police practices the Clintons supported in the 90s.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Even if, in some alternate time/space continuum, she would say so, would you believe she meant it?
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)PWPippin
(213 posts)Watching Tim's righteous anger made me feel physically ill. Shame on you, Hillary Clinton.
gordyfl
(598 posts)I watched Bernie in it's entirety. I thought he did fine.
I've watched only about 2/3 of Hillary so far. Boring.
Her answers seem repetitive. "We'll have to deal with that. " We should address that." And her other favorite reply, "The Republicans...blah, blah, blah".
He's right. Hillary does a lot of name-dropping.
I'll watch the last third later.
Bernin4U
(812 posts)Her gratuitous pandering is bad enough. But her answers are horrible! Rambling and vague, filled with "it's something we'll need to look at" non-answers. And she fails to pivot them to her strengths.
She's almost a clinic in how -not- to give a job interview.
Clearly shows the difference in her thinking on her feet, vs a typical debate where answers can be scripted and rehearsed.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)Well, now. Seems to me Bernie is closer right now change policies. Once Hillary is elected, she will be able to do much to help change the policies.
Whatever Hillary does, it's pandering. Whatever Bernie does, it sincere empathy and understanding.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Bingo.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)It really jumped out for me too. Hilli Vanilli needs to go.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)What's next? A plastic turkey?
erlewyne
(1,115 posts)I am voting for Bernie!
thereismore
(13,326 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Not seeing it if it was.
Lorien
(31,935 posts)TheProgressive
(1,656 posts)It leads me to believe that we really are on a path to not only political revolution but also a
humanity revolution. There is nobody better than me nor worse than me. We are all people.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)begins at 1:14:35.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)And it's very disgusting to watch HRC in action.
Considering the 2008 campaign and what she and her husband asserted about Obama's 2008 primary win in SC--it's a wonder they believe anything she says.
onecaliberal
(32,863 posts)Benefit. She will forget all about them when she doesn't need them anymore. Mr Black is extremely upset understandably. It really is beyond belief that Hillary is so completely void of considerstion for others that she would parade their pain in public when her husband bears some responsibility.
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)is using these grieving women as props.
Off topic a little bit, but look what is trending on twitter: https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhichHillary?src=tren
Divernan
(15,480 posts)I've been following the AA group, although I don't post there. When I read posts and threads elsewhere in DU which address racism, I rarely see any participation in the discussion by Clinton supporters who post in AA. And when a DU black person occasionally does post in AA asking for explanations of HRC's positions and actions, he/she is told he/she is not welcome to raise such a question and to show respect for the group.
This man put it so eloquently. He asks 2 questions I would like to see debate on from DU blacks.
How do you defend it?
How do you ignore it?
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)When I heard his comments in his previous video, I could hear he spoke for me. And not just a few words, but everything he says speaks to the goals I have for this country, which is why I am voting for the only candidate who is worth voting for in this election. Bernie Sanders.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)and spot on. Everyone on DU should see this.
HUGE K&R
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)sammythecat
(3,568 posts)Ha! Dream on. She's very intelligent but also very rigid and highly square in her thinking. As a college student in the turbulent 60's she was running around campaigning for Republican politicians. Fast forward nearly half a century and her position on marijuana is that maybe it should be removed from schedule 1, with heroin and meth, down to schedule 2 so that scientists can legally study it to see if it's of any medical value.
Good God almighty! How, in 2016, can someone so worldly and seemingly intelligent, have such an archaic and utterly stupid and uninformed opinion of marijuana? How many lives have been negatively impacted and even ruined because of the relentless ignorance of people like her in charge of policy and lawmaking? What the hell is the matter with her!? Seriously.
Great video btw. I'll check this guy out on Youtube. I like him.