Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumHave you seen it? Ouch!
RNC ad that is running in SC.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/hillary-clinton-race-related-criticism-republican-national-committee-219616
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Can't say that I'm not happy about it either. It needs to be said and Bernie isn't going to do it and he certainly wouldn't allow any group supporting him to say it. Just wish it was the RNC.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
jillan
(39,451 posts)Even if they are doing this to "hurt" Bernie by helping him.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)I know the GE will be endless red baiting, but no one that supports Bernie is going to buy what they're selling! Let them run all the nasty ads they want. I see it as them cutting if their nose to spite their face because they won't win the GE!
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)...when he said she was pandering. But no one wants to hear that. And God forbid anyone bring up her 2008 strategy.
leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)Let the RNC go after her!
jillan
(39,451 posts)If the RNC keeps doing this - I just might have to send them a donation JUST KIDDING!
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)interesting!
TDale313
(7,820 posts)I think the Clintons should be held to account for the stuff that came out of the '08 campaign. And people need to be reminded of the-frankly- racist and divisive stuff that was said and pulled.
That said- ugg if it's the RNC running this. And if they do think they'd rather run against Bernie? All I can say is- be careful what you wish for.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Somebody needs to say it - might as well be them.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)I agree- it needs to be said.
bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)dchill
(38,517 posts)Her lead with the AA community in SC is jangling with cognitive dissonance.
"THE CLINTONS - ONLY WITH YOU WHEN THEY NEED YOU."
The RNC got THAT right.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)Ouch is right.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Not based on it's content, which really is true, but rather based on the character of the RNC that put it out.
Sanders has the best policies for racial equality and justice reform and is the only one that will improve the lives of every working person in this country (of all races colors and genders).
Yet, because he is honest and really is the best candidate on the issues for the minorities Clinton is cynically using against themselves to get elected, I know in my heart he wants to win them over with his honestly and better policies on the issues that concern them.
I don't think he want's to win votes by pointing out the obvious bullshit and low tactics Hillary has spread for years, he wants to do it his way, honestly and by getting the message out about the truth that he is the better candidate on minority issues and the poverty issues that hit minorities the hardest. He may be naive in this respect, but he runs clean campaigns and is a man of honor, I'd like to give him the respect to run his campaign in his usual honorable way, even if it will take longer to reach some people that are deliberately and by calculation being misled by Clinton' who is in fact the worst candidate for minorities (besides Republicans).
He deserves to do it his own unique and honorable way, even if that approach takes longer and loses him the primary and thus all of us the election, I believe he may yet have time to reach the deceived and misled and actually win, but his way, a way that is one of the reasons I respect him so much.
I respect him too much to want him to gain it any other way than by his way, the honorable way. I also don't wan't lying ass Republicans to muddle things, we already have our own lying ass Republican for that wearing a false D and a pantsuit.
So yes, even if the content is true, I must vehemently denounce this ad and as always denounce the RNC, they will just as easily and likely slowly pivot from this into complete lies that discredit Bernie and his good name, remember, they read the same head to head polling and know Hilary loses in a landslide to a Republican, Sanders wins in such match ups.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)and I am happy that Bernie is doing it HIS way. The honorable way.
The thing that gets me about this ad is that some people say that she has been vetted and has been through the ringer already. It seems to me that the RNC ring is coming around again and can and WILL bite her again.
In the meantime, I'll keep fighting for Bernie
jillan
(39,451 posts)if the msm would do it's job instead of constantly praising her work with the black community there wouldn't be any need for this ad.
I know they are going to do it Bernie too. No doubt about that.
ETA - if they weren't running this now, you could be certain they would be running it in October if she is the nominee.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)They will never do their job as their very few owners are the same people donating to both Hilary and the Republicans.
That is what social media is for, it is the new news and truth can be posted many places on it.
Look, I get your mixed feelings. But the truth about both Bernie and Hillary can be gotten out more effectively than by relying on random SuperPac attack ads and social media is the key in a country with a Pravda press.
As an individual feel free to point out the stuff Bernie is to honorable to drag into it, just make sure you do research and are assured it is true. Anything untrue used even in defense of the greater good and our only electable IMO candidate can come back and bite us in the ass.
Truth on the other hand carries much greater power as it can be verified, and as Bernie has shown, people respond better to the truth.
It is precisely because Hillary is such a well known liar that she has an Achilles heal and can easily lose.
The reason in fact that she has no hope of winning the General election is not only because of enthusiasm that will bring out voters for Bernie, and Super enthusiasm caused by the universal hatred of Hillary on the republican side that will have them crawling through broken glass to come out and vote against her, that all is a part of it, but the biggest part is
THIS COUNTRY WILL NOT ELECT A PRESIDENT THAT MOST OF IT"S CITIZENS THINK IS AN HABITUAL LIAR it will never happen, and yes, most Americans view her as such a liar.
So cheer up! Ignore the TV media and get more involved in the unpaid for and purchased new media of the millennial age. The internet.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)bernbabe
(370 posts)I posted it several hours ago, but I couldn't start a thread with it because I hadn't posted here enough yet.
Hopefully this wakes some people up.