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newthinking

(3,982 posts)
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 04:57 AM Feb 2016

Daily KOS: NO CHANTING or shout-down of Dolores Huerta: Susan Sarandon tweet includes caucus video


http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/20/1488515/-NO-CHANTING-or-shout-down-of-Dolores-Huerta-Susan-Sarandon-tweet-includes-caucus-video


@AmericaFerrera I was there. Nobody frm Bernie's side said English only. Moderator did when no neutral translator was found@DoloresHuerta
— Susan Sarandon (@SusanSarandon) February 21, 2016

Link to the entire vid. The translation ask starts at 53:30 & mod says English Only at 55:18. NO CHANTING. https://t.co/3bxIs9eKJy
— Susan Sarandon (@SusanSarandon) February 21, 2016


The ustream video from the Susan Sarandon tweet is very long.

I wish we still had html editing so I could bookmark the video in the right place.

The request for translation begins at 53:30 on this ustream video.

The MODERATOR says “we’re going forward in English Only” at 55:18 and a few people applaud.

THERE. IS. NO. CHANTING.

Susan Sarandon, who was there, has posted this longer video in a tweet. Anyone who watches this video can see and hear for themselves.

The moderator ONLY is the one who says the words “English only” and apparently made a unilateral decision.

There is no chanting, organized or otherwise, from Bernie supporters or from anyone really, except for the person we have already heard in the shorter video who is saying “neutral! neutral!”

Perhaps one or two quiet people up front said something that cannot be heard that influenced the moderator or that he repeated.

But when I first heard this story I imagined the worst. A group of Bernie supporters actually chanting repeatedly the words ENGLISH ONLY! ENGLISH ONLY! ENGLISH ONLY! That is the impression HRC supporters intended to leave and they have succeeded!

Countless people are believing and repeating that mistaken impression and FSM only knows what effect it may have in other spanish speaking areas.

As I said in the other diary, in my opinion 2016 is now officially more vicious than 2008, and I never thought I would say that.
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Daily KOS: NO CHANTING or shout-down of Dolores Huerta: Susan Sarandon tweet includes caucus video (Original Post) newthinking Feb 2016 OP
People need to get smart CJCRANE Feb 2016 #1
some people don't care and lying is their default mode roguevalley Feb 2016 #2
... Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #3
I saw that in the GD: P forum. Major Hogwash Feb 2016 #4
The fish stinks from the head down The Traveler Feb 2016 #5
OFFS. So it was a blatant lie. The moderator said it. THANK YOU, SUSAN SARANDON! in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #6
I was upset when I first heard the story about the chanting malletgirl02 Feb 2016 #7
This was an especially disgusting lie Mufaddal Feb 2016 #8

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
1. People need to get smart
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 05:23 AM
Feb 2016

and stop giving the benefit of the doubt to things they hear in the MSM or biased sources (that applies to Repubs too - look at Ted Cruz's dirty tricks in Iowa that worked on people's gullibility).

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
4. I saw that in the GD: P forum.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 07:08 AM
Feb 2016

I'll take Susan Sarandon's word for it because the video is clear than no one was shouting down anyone.

This is going to cost Hillary's campaign a lot of Latino votes down the road because it wasn't necessary for her surrogate to lie like that for her.



 

The Traveler

(5,632 posts)
5. The fish stinks from the head down
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 07:43 AM
Feb 2016

Ms. Clinton's leadership prompts good people to do foul things on her behalf.

I feel rather awful for her supporters, to be honest.

Trav

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
6. OFFS. So it was a blatant lie. The moderator said it. THANK YOU, SUSAN SARANDON!
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:50 AM
Feb 2016

So the whole thing was a ploy to alienate Latino voters from Bernie because of the states where Clinton NEEDS the Latino vote to win....

BOOKMARKING for when this is lied about in the future.

Yep, the Kitchen Sink, refrigerator, stove, pots and pans, dishes and tableware are coming. Brock, DWS, DNC and Bill are desperate and when people are desperate they do stupid things and stupid things lead to HUGE MISTAKES. I say, GIVE CLINTON ENOUGH ROPE TO HANG HERSELF. It's coming.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

malletgirl02

(1,523 posts)
7. I was upset when I first heard the story about the chanting
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:50 AM
Feb 2016

I decided to wait until morning to make a comment. I'm glad I waited since the story was false. What gets me there is a thread in GDP by a Clinton supporter angry that Sanders supporters are angry about the lie.

Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
8. This was an especially disgusting lie
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:02 PM
Feb 2016

And should require a public apology to the Sanders campaign, as well as full retractions of subsequent stories repeating the lie.

Here is the Snopes page on the incident, btw: http://www.snopes.com/sanders-english-only-huerta/

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