Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumWhat the other end of a conversation with Hillary supporters looks like to me sometimes...
if you don't just take their word for it
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1229552
retrowire
(10,345 posts)"Sanders fantasies and promises"
I give up all hope on people who don't see that Sanders stuff works just fine in many other industrialized nations.
If they want to shut out facts and refuse to think big, then they're settled.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)not practical
not realistic
fantasy
that's not how it works
TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)...is the notion that the GOP won't fight against Hillary. I'd rather have perfect gridlock with Bernie than watch Hillary sign stuff that the GOP wants (trade agreements, wars, etc). Bernie would use the power of the veto in all of its glory.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)I look at it this way.
The right HATES Obama. They will not let the man do what he needs to to do. They're assholes.
The right HATES Hillary. So to assume that somehow she'll get a different outcome than Obama? That's uh, pretty dumb.
Bernie? Oh I'm sure the right will try and FIND reasons to hate him, but as of now, he's not in a category as vilified as Obama and Hillary.
Sure, people will cry "Communist! Socialist!" but not only does Bernie NOT ignore that, he corrects the terminology to be Democratic Socialist, and he embraces it. I think that will yield a different result. How is the right supposed to sling him with mud when everytime they toss it, Bernie simply says, "That's not mud."
The American people are not dumb, and as Bernie told Hillary, "Don't insult their intelligence."
arcane1
(38,613 posts)I trust nobody who uses them.
Beowulf
(761 posts)I usually just get insults.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)or maybe i just have those people on ignore
Beowulf
(761 posts)I'm usually asking for information to support their statements. Generally, I get statements with no evidence and an insult. The image I have isn't tap dancing, but rather sitting in a corner with hands over their ears and making loud, repetitive sounds to avoid hearing anything they don't want to hear.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)"LA LA LA LA LA" Land.