Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumWashington Post: Clinton May Not Be Salvageable
[While most of us would disagree with the Wa-Po's assessment on Bernie, the assessment on Hillary is damning--that is if you take the Washington Post as the "go-to" publication in Washington DC. Their analysis of Hillary's campaign is the strongest statement to date (that I've seen) that in fact it may actually be "lights out" for her campaign. But then again, this appears to only be opinion and not based on any factual information. For the Wa-Po to slam Bernie, however, is SOP for a "white-wing" publication. The first sentence is a joke].
Democrats who think Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is simply a stronger-than-expected sparring partner for Hillary Clinton may be in for a rude awakening. While the Republicans have their hands full navigating toward an alternative to Donald Trump, at least they have people in the race capable of doing so. Clinton, however, may be a dead-woman-walking, leaving the Democratic Party in the untenable position of nominating a socialist whose foreign and domestic policies are antithetical to the great majority of Americans.
Clintons problems are threefold.
First and foremost, she has a serious legal problem, one that cannot be wished away by those indifferent to the facts. The FBI does not investigate and devote considerable resources for nothing. It does not lightly send a letter stating it is investigating a former high government officials use of an unsecured email. And someone (whether in the FBI, the Justice Department or some other corner of the administration) does not without good reason leak a story as damaging as this latest Fox News report:
At least a dozen email accounts handled the top secret intelligence that was found on Hillary Clintons server and recently deemed too damaging for national security to release, a U.S. government official close to the review told Fox News.
The official said the accounts include not only Clintons but those of top aides including Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin, Jake Sullivan and Philippe Reines as well as State Department Under Secretary for Management Patrick Kennedy and others.
A second source not authorized to speak on the record said the number of accounts involved could be as high as 30 and reflects how the intelligence was broadly shared, replied to, and copied to individuals using the unsecured server.
This sort of rampant mishandling of classified material cannot be swept under the rug, no matter how much Democrats want to believe this is some political fuss cooked up by Republicans. Whoever is leaking the information seems determined to make sure the FBI and/or the Justice Department cannot evade their obligations to move forward, as they would with any staff person who engaged in this behavior.
[Hillary Clinton, blind to her own greed, makes another blunder]
In speaking with law professors, former Justice Department lawyers, former Hill staffers who have learned the rules regarding classified material and former national security officials, I have yet to find a single one who believes Clintons legal risk is trivial. No, it is serious, and now so public that inaction becomes difficult for the FBI and the Justice Department.
The involvement of so many individuals raises the possibility, as any lawyer would know, that immunity will be granted in exchange for testimony, tightening the noose around Clinton. And that is just one of Clintons problems.
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Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Gee, I wonder why?
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Yeah, does seem a bit iffy, given how well most of the things Bernie espouses poll with regular Americans.
TSIAS
(14,689 posts)I don't like using her or Ed Rogers as a credible source for anything.
pat_k
(9,313 posts)Ex-Washington Post ombudsman: 'Fire Jennifer Rubin'
By DYLAN BYERS 08/15/13
Patrick Pexton, who served as The Washington Post's ombudsman until March of this year, has written an open letter to incoming Post owner Jeff Bezos in which he calls on him to make editorial page editor Fred Hiatt fire Jennifer Rubin, the paper's conservative columnist.
"Have Fred Hiatt, your editorial page editor who I like, admire, and respect fire opinion blogger Jennifer Rubin. Not because shes conservative, but because shes just plain bad," Pexton writes in the letter, which was published by Washington City Paper....
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Just plain bad she might be, but are any of the things claimed in the article as facts wrong? Certainly some of the opinions are stupid, but the facts listed, if true, are pretty damning on their face.
pat_k
(9,313 posts)... spouting crap like the bogus presumption that Bernie's "foreign and domestic policies are antithetical to the great majority of Americans."
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)The title is intriguing and might very well be factual, but the body of the piece screams "Democrats in disarray because Sanders is unelectable" and then proceeds to trash Obama for doing the very things he deserves credit for.
Yes it says Clinton might be a crook but that's just about the only part of that piece of crap column that's even remotely true.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)was how many OTHER people had accounts on the server, leaving it possible, and indeed probable, that State department emails were exchanged between those people that were never preserved on State email servers, as was claimed all along by Clinton defenders.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)And even if the investigation turns up nothing criminal per se, there is certainly ample evidence of extreme lack of attention to detail and very sloppy management.
Certainly not the tight ship one expects from a chief executive in these perilous days.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Documentation requested.
sarge43
(28,945 posts)The good people of New Hampshire loathe taxes with the intensity of a super nova. Yet, 60% of them voted for Senator Sanders. They may not be the best bell weather of the American public, but they're not the worst either.
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)made me want to shower.
By the time I got to the President Obama bashing... I stopped reading.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Didn't get any further
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)The tracks up ahead are clear, there is nothing keeping Bernie from becoming the next President of the United States.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)I don't think her legal problems are that dire. Let's defeat her on the real issues with her campaign, which are plenty bad enough.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)That certainly kills off the argument that only Clinton had an external email, and that therefore there would always be a copy of her correspondence with State Department personnel on official servers. Obviously if both people in any given exchange had Clinton server emails, then no, there would NOT be a copy on State Department servers.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)potone
(1,701 posts)If she does, she is unaware of how most people think. Really, I am getting sick of reporters and editorial writers assuming that everyone else shares their aversion to Bernie Sanders. They are motivated by fear that the majority might actually elect someone who will represent their interests, and we can't have that now, can we?
Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)The bottom line is, half the country won't vote for her; she has high unfavorable ratings and bottom-of-the-barrel trust ratings, and Independents and Republicans hate her. When you combine that with the fact that she's running on a résumé rather than a real platform (hey, Hillary, newsflash: you're not running for Secretary of State), and can't generate even the slightest bit of genuine enthusiasm, you've got a loss in the general if she gets the nomination.
Here's a great electability gauge: if last night was what, her 25th presidential debate? then she should have absolutely wiped the floor with Bernie, yet it was Bernie who drew blood over and over again.