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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:43 PM Feb 2016

There is another piece of bait floating around in the murky waters.

Beware!

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sanders-obama-couldnt-bridge-congress-americans

Here Bernie is saying that he wants to do more than President Obama did in keeping the voters involved after the election (you can read it for yourself).

But somehow this means that Bernie is insulting the President, throwing him under the bus, thinks he is superior to Obama because he wants to do something more to engage the voters.

Watch where you step.

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There is another piece of bait floating around in the murky waters. (Original Post) jillan Feb 2016 OP
Thanks for the heads up. retrowire Feb 2016 #1
I recall him asking repeatedly for our help to make him do it. Paulie Feb 2016 #3
Did he? Hmmm.. nt retrowire Feb 2016 #5
I do recall when OFA was shut down - in my neighborhood. It was a wtf moment. jillan Feb 2016 #8
+1. There were a lot of hard feelings about that. winter is coming Feb 2016 #9
Agreed! Paulie Feb 2016 #2
Do you mean like the poster who asks "Do you believe President Obama told his supporters to stand Vincardog Feb 2016 #4
They are doing this so early MuseRider Feb 2016 #6
They've got to gain the upper hand by or on Super Tuesday, or it's all over. n/t winter is coming Feb 2016 #10
seems to be making waves online n/t LiberalElite Feb 2016 #7
Once again, I hear those chicken wings flapping Bernin4U Feb 2016 #11
Bernie's momentum (I believe) is real. Gregorian Feb 2016 #12

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
1. Thanks for the heads up.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:45 PM
Feb 2016

It's all about the vote.

Obama gave the impression that all we needed to do was vote for him.

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
3. I recall him asking repeatedly for our help to make him do it.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:49 PM
Feb 2016

The Teabaggers were very very loud at the time and took most of the MSM oxygen out of the debate.

But I don't recall when OFA was stood down, before or during.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
8. I do recall when OFA was shut down - in my neighborhood. It was a wtf moment.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:57 PM
Feb 2016

I don't know if this happened all over the country or not.... but in my little slice of the world, they were shut down.

It was shocking because the woman that ran the office was amazing! Never in all my years did I meet someone that engaged me to come out and volunteer as much as she did. This office was buzzing. Every day, every night, phone calls, canvassing, friendships being made.
Right after the election she contacted all of us and told us they were told OFA was no longer needed.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
9. +1. There were a lot of hard feelings about that.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:04 PM
Feb 2016

People had worked for change, Obama had told us to keep his feet to the fire, and then it was suddenly, "sit down and shut up."

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
4. Do you mean like the poster who asks "Do you believe President Obama told his supporters to stand
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:52 PM
Feb 2016

Down?"

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
6. They are doing this so early
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:53 PM
Feb 2016

that they will run out of things to sling at him before long. How much is sticking? It does not look like much.

The longer this continues the harder it is going to be for them.

Thanks to Trump we already got the bathroom issues out in the open so...there is that at least.

Bernin4U

(812 posts)
11. Once again, I hear those chicken wings flapping
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:17 PM
Feb 2016

But only see them barely able to get off the ground; the weight of all that cynicism is too much to overcome.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
12. Bernie's momentum (I believe) is real.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:28 PM
Feb 2016

There are not only those who get his/the message, but more who learn about him.

The idea is to sandbag an opponent, and thereby slow the increase in their gaining momentum. It's a pretty effective ideology for coming out on top without having any substantive argument in the process.

With a strong base, and new supporters (as well as cocooned supporters coming out of hibernation so to speak), Sanders' momentum would be pretty tough to change. I think it comes down to a matter of how many have either bought into corporate influence, or don't understand enough to have an informed opinion, versus those who are Independents, and conservatives looking for an alternative. Dems aren't going over to the republican side this election. Hillary is established as a political figure, and she has a stable following, and I don't know what the comparison of her new supporters is with respect to Sanders' new supporters. I feel fairly confident that he is getting more. If these smears even slow his momentum to a constant pace, then he's still in a good position, and I don't see this stuff getting to potential voters since Bernie has very good fighting skills combined with a resonating ;message. These have all worked in the past, but I doubt they will as much now as they did before. We have our own infrastructure, and knowledge gained from too many years of being under tyrannical-like conditions. Amen. Haha.

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