Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumLast Night, Rachel Maddow Perfectly Captured What Bernie’s Win Means for the Left
http://www.thenation.com/article/last-night-rachel-maddow-perfectly-captured-what-bernies-win-means-for-the-left/If you really are a liberal, its been a long time in this country when you felt like mainstream politics had nothing to say to you, and that mainstream politics just was not about you, she said on MSNBC. But now, with Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders campaigning this way against each otherthat happened because Bernie Sanders got into this race, she explained. All these kids who are enthused about this race, whether or not theyre supporting Bernie Sanders directly, are never going to feel like mainstream politics isnt about them.
Think back to the 1992 conventions, when Pat Buchanan gave his infamous culture-wars speech, announcing a crusade, as Maddow put it, against gay people, minorities and feminism and concluding that There is a religious war going on in our country for the soul of America. It is a cultural war, as critical to the kind of nation we will one day be as was the Cold War itself. In response to that declaration of war, the Democratic Party didnt have much: As a gay person watching that in 1992, I didnt feel like Bill Clinton had my back. I didnt feel like the Democratic Party had my back, she added. He was talking about agreeing with Ronald Reagan that government was the problem
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)the New Democrats campaigned on Reagan light... the state will only help you if you agree to try and pull yourself by your own bootstraps.... and don't ask don't tell: if you agree to stay in the closet, we'll agree not to open the door...
yeah, it was a winning strategy in the 90s, but we aren't in the 90s... America has matured... and winning strategy and morally right aren't always the same thing...
this year we're lucky enough to have a much less morally compromised AND politically strong candidate...
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Return to 1992. They are trying to "take back" America to days of bigotry and discrimination, clothed in religiosity. They think their bigotry trumps everyone else's civil rights.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)warrprayer
(4,734 posts)And rec
Powers Hapgood
(57 posts)To be very honest, Cruz, Rubio and the other Republican neo-fascists want to go back a lot further than 1992. Try 1896, when the country elected a reactionary who was bought and sold by the big banks of the time. It was a time when any resistance by labor was something to crush, and when the most the Democrats could do was argue for free coinage of silver. Whoopie! Yeah, that's a Republican utopia.
cprise
(8,445 posts)pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)And better just leave it at that.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)Demented Avenger
(3 posts)According to www.truthinmedia.com, CNN estimates the delegates; Clinton 431 - Sanders 52. This is because of super delegates in New Hampshire. This is a travesty! Sanders won and should have received the most delegates. The system is rigged for Hillary. The establishment is afraid that Bernie Sanders will bring justice for the working class.
I am so disappointed in our political process! I think Hillary will win the nomination unless it's a landslide for Bernie on super Tuesday, which is unlikely.
Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)Super delegates are not awarded/earned like regular delegates. They are not even the same thing as regular delegates. So in delegate count, Bernie won NH. As for the cable news stations, they should not be including SDs in the same category, because it's not an actual commitment. It's just a super delegate saying "as of now, my plan is to vote for you." The super delegate has not voted already or something, and that number could go down at any point--whereas the regular delegate count will not. So conflating those two things is just one more way the media is trying to give the illusion that Hillary is doing better than she is, IMO.
Demented Avenger
(3 posts)Thanks so much for your reply. I'm relieved. I learned something new today. I dislike the fact that the news organizations are putting these together. Very misleading.