Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumChris Matthews, shut up!
He's been all over the place today ranting that Bernie wants to give out free everything that no one has to pay for. That is a BIG LIE. Of course you have to pay for it. That's the concept of socialism where everyone contributes according to their means and you have access to health care, education and elderly care when you need it. It's not free but it is evenly distributed and sure some get free stuff. For instance children get free education that working adults pay for. But they will be paying for other children when they grow up. That's how it works, but it's not free. Why doesn't anyone correct him on this? Frankly, I know he knows better. He's really on a tear to discredit Bernie. Fuck him and that bird cage he lives in. Time to put a cover over it.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)jalan48
(13,881 posts)onecaliberal
(32,887 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)Stephanie Miller and Thom Hartmann. Thom tried to push back, but Chris filibustered him until the commercial break pushed him off the air.
onecaliberal
(32,887 posts)Not sure why he would have that spittle mouth pin head on his show.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)wingers on to debate them. It's a thankless task and frankly I don't want to listen to them because I'm surrounded elsewhere with right wing bull shit.
onecaliberal
(32,887 posts)No amount of debate or talking is going to turn them around. You really cannot fix stupid. Hate is very powerful.
Nightjock
(1,408 posts)Exactly! They are so lost they actually think WE are brainwashed.
I tried to talk calmly. I tried to politely reason with them.
I honestly care about my fellow humans all over this world. But there is no cure for "hate and stupid" when it is rolled up and twisted in a far right wing mind.
onecaliberal
(32,887 posts)appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)Clintons (and their supporters) are going into right wing slime mode, so it will prepare him for the general election. By the same token, it's time Bernie goes ahead and calls a spade a spade.
The Clintons have received in the neighborhood of $300-400 MILLION of corporate donations. It shows up in policies like NAFTA, appointments like Robert Rubin, and warhawk positions like Iraq/Libya/Syria. Time to start pointing out all of this instead of letting her whine and cry about "smears" from Sanders. If she thinks that is a smear, wait until she sees what the Republicans have to say on her email scandal, Benghazi, corruption at the Clinton Foundation, and on and on and on.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)It's a generational thing and he is a gentleman and I don't know if he can change that. But now that President Clinton has entered the fray maybe he should go after him man to man. The NAFTA deal and like you said the mistakes he made during his administration would be ripe for discussion.
TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)Her campaign has played the gender card already and seems ready to do it as much as possible to win. She has done it herself in debates, like when she claimed a woman is not capable of being part of the Establishment. Bernie is aware of how they like to play this card (they did it to Obama as well) and it makes it difficult for a man to do FACTUAL criticism of her and her husband's corrupt history.
This is exactly why I wish Elizabeth Warren decided to run. Hillary would not be able to spin or weasel her way out of the FACTS about her record. She is a corporate-OWNED politician, period. Full stop. I could not give two shits about her gender. Elizabeth Warren is not owned by those corporations and it is a damn shame she is not in this race to prevent the gender card from being used by the Establishment to distract from the real issues.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)she refused, he stepped in. We were begging him to when she refused to run.
If Bernie attacked her on being a corporate-owned pol, you can be sure Chris and the rest of blah, blahers would be saying he's misogynistic etc..
TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)...that Elizabeth didn't run. Matthews, Hillary, Slick Willie, Steinem, Albright, and anyone else playing the gender card would have no chance in hell of doing it with Elizabeth standing on the stage pointing out the exact same TRUTH that Bernie has been speaking about. Bernie's penis does not change Hillary's corrupt record of taking hundreds of millions from corporations and supporting the racket that is warmongering.
Blus4u
(608 posts)winds up on Bernie's ticket!
Peace
Cleita
(75,480 posts)One can pray.
global1
(25,263 posts)She endorsed Hillary and she takes donor money from Clinton alumni. You think Tweety will be hard on Hillary?
Cleita
(75,480 posts)He never had anything nice to say about Bill back when he was Prez and when Hillary ran the first time, he derided her every chance he got. What did the Clintons do to turn him around?
global1
(25,263 posts)bring her to office on Hillary's coattails. You can help Chris. Be nice to Hillary and attack Bernie.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)so badly.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)I'd stopped watching MSM and MSNBC..but, got sucked back in during Iowa Primary. I'd stopped watching Tweety (Thrill Up His Leg) years ago...and, I agree with you. I feel like I'm watching a disfunctional person and he was so OTT tonight with the Trump interview and the rest of his ravings. How I got sucked back in..... I should have known better!
BobHoey
(1 post)Chris Matthews is a shill for Hillary Clinton. He regularly distorts Bernie's positions, as Cleita explains above. Lawrence O'Donnell gets it. He has called himself a socialist and correctly claims that everyone who support Social Security or public roads or Medicare or any of a large number of programs that have been offered by the US Government for many years, is a socialist. Chris Matthews repeatedly asks various guests to define socialism and he want to characterize is as some pie in the sky idealism that is somehow confused with communism. I would like to see a public push to encourage these two MSNBC hosts to have a debate between themselves on the merits of socialism.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Welcome to DU!
And, there's this:
June 03, 2015, 12:43 pm
Wife of Chris Matthews running for House
By Jonathan Easley
http://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_full/public/blogs
Kathleen Matthews, the wife of MSNBC personality Chris Matthews, has entered the Democratic primary to replace Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), who is running for Senate.
Matthews on Wednesday launched her campaign for Marylands 8th District House seat from downtown Silver Spring, vowing to fight for a litany of liberal causes, including equal pay for women, abortion rights, and raising the minimum wage, according to The Washington Post.
Matthews is a former local news anchor. She most recently served as an executive for Marriott Hotels but stepped down from that position last month as she geared up for the House race.
Matthewss name recognition, and her familys deep political ties, could help her stand apart from the huge field of Democrats seeking to replace Van Hollen.
Still, shes never run for elected office before and faces a deep field of experienced state-level officials in the primary.
So far, Maryland Dels. Kumar Barve and Ana Sol Gutierrez are in the race, along with Will Jawando, a former aide to President Obama, and state Sen. Jamie Raskin.
A handful of other Maryland delegates and county officials are also believed to be eyeing the race in a safe Democratic district.
Van Hollen cannot run for reelection to the House because he is seeking the Senate seat left open by the retirement of Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.). Maryland law prevents candidates from running for both.
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Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)This is the perfect place!
"I thought you might find this little nugget interesting to say the least. The story has a lot of supporting links. Makes one wonder why Chris Matthews, especially this past week, has been using his airtime to launch red-bait attacks against Bernie while giving Hillary a free pass to promote her positions."
When pressed, she eventually named that congressman: Pete McCloskey. What she did not say that day, and never says when she uses this anecdote on the stump in this Democratic primary, is that McCloskey was a Republican, and she was, according to reporting at the time, McCloskey's co-campaign manager for his 1974 general election campaign against Santa Clara Mayor Gary Gillmor, the Democratic nominee in California's 12th District that year, and that she continued to serve McCloskey after the election as a press assistant in his Palo Alto office.
~snip~
http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com
840high
(17,196 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)with Lawrence on everything, but nobody can deny what a bright guy he is.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)From a MoveOn petition:
http://pac.petitions.moveon.org/sign/msnbc-suspend-chris-matthews
KoKo
(84,711 posts)to suspend Matthews if he doesn't give Bernie equal time!
http://pac.petitions.moveon.org/sign/msnbc-suspend-chris-matthews
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)And Matthews knows it.There's no free stuff for anyone.
The question has always been how much and for what. We all pay for the wars and the corporate tax subsidies hedge fund loopholes and the no-bid contracts and everything else. We could, if we chose, feed, clothe and educate our people, build our roads; replace our prisons with health and mental health facilities. Take care of the environment.
Our cup runneth over, here in the richest nation on Earth. It's just currently being guzzled by a few people who have grabbed it with both hands and would prefer not to share.
Matthews makes me laugh. He tries to sound scholarly and statesmanlike, but he lapses back into partisan bloviating and comes off silly when he does it.