If Bernie loses, what he has done won't be allowed to happen again.

[snagglepuss]

New party "rules" are likely already being drawn up that will prevent another grassroots campaign not sanctioned by the establishment from ever happening again.



Another DUer posted this chilling comment in a thread several days ago but it ought to have been an OP as it's right on the mark.

[TTUBatfan2008]

1. 100% right

The oligarchs will not let the grass roots have a voice again.

[LiberalElite]

5. then they

will get the revolution for real.

[TTUBatfan2008]

6. Yep

Bernie is offering a chance for peaceful changes to a rigged system. At some point if changes are not made, there will be a physical revolt. I don't want to see it happen but the regular people can only take so much.

[Nite Owl]

12. sure will

[Dustlawyer]

23. OWS caught them off guard and it took them awhile to put it down with force.

Now Bernie is leading the people who share the OWS issues and attitude, we have had enough. The more they try to crack down on populism, the more it will grow. OWS needed a leader to guide it and focus on the root problem that is causing or exacerbating other problems. That root problem is campaign finance. Bernie has the solution with Publicly Funded Elections.

[TTUBatfan2008]

24. Agreed...

I just hope we can get some serious reforms in place because I do not want to see a violent revolution. The more the system is stacked in favor of the 0.1%, the angrier the public becomes over it. Bernie is offering a peaceful change in how the executive branch operates. That is far better than seeing the country plunge into violent revolution of the 99% against the 0.1% in particular.

[Nite Owl]

2. In which case

membership in the democratic party will dwindle also. This is a new group of younger people who don't have a long term alligiance to the party and wouldn't think twice about switching to Independent. The party needs them to win. It would be a dumb thing to do but the leadership isn't any to bright either.

[snagglepuss]

7. It'll be decades before an Independent has a fighting chance as m$m and tptb will make

sure he or she is shut out of debates. That is unless that Ind happens to be a billionaire. Do you think if Bernie ran as an Ind that Hillary would have debated him? He would have been ignored and marginalized.

[TTUBatfan2008]

10. He WAS ignored and marginalized...

...for a year by the DNC and Establishment people. Clintonist DNC chairwoman even tried to bury the debates on Saturday and Sunday nights during college and pro football.

[snagglepuss]

17. True but those debates happened and these haven given him access to a wider

and more diverse audience than if he only had to rely on rallies.

[dae]

3. Bank on it, pun intended.

[SoapBox]

4. Ya know...I believe you are correct.

The Elites that are behind closed doors are pissed off, that us little people are raising our voices.

[cantbeserious]

8. Agreed Completely

eom

[draa]

9. If Bernie loses there won't be a party left.

I've read too many people saying they are leaving the party after this election. Many are life long, multi generational Democrats like myself. They've had enough.

It's not because of Clinton either. It's because of the way the party has treated Bernie Sanders. It's disgraceful and people won't forget. They didn't do it with any other contending Democratic primary candidate, ever, but they've gone all out against Bernie. From doom and gloom to red-baiting, the Democratic establishment has tried it all. Not just the media arm but actual elected officials going all the way to the top man. WTF!!!

That can't be allowed to stand or be rewarded. If so we'll never have change. Either Bernie wins or they Democrats lose. They made their choice so now they can deal with the outcome.

[TTUBatfan2008]

11. The soul of the party...

FDR economics vs. Clintonian warmongering oligarchy. I believe FDR is rolling in his grave when he sees how much the party establishment is in the tank for a CORPORATE agenda.

[draa]

13. Yep, and Bernie's supporters are that soul.

Without us the party dies. And many of us have been ass kissers for too long. Either use this chance to gut the neoliberal wing of the party, or leave the party and let it die alone. That's the choices we have.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

14. Sanders supporters must flood the local democratic party offices

the revolution does not stop in November

[in_cog_ni_to]

15. They will also make a major move to control the Internet - where Bernie's power came from and grows

from.

They will get control of this engine as soon as they can after the election.

But Bernie's going to win, so we needn't worry!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[Bernin4U]

16. People think he won't be allowed to win this time

Many people I know, who back him 100%, have some serious concerns about the party allowing him to win at all, let alone allowing this to happen again.

So I wonder, what would it take for us to win this? Free and clear, to the point that it can't be "Katherine Harris-ed"?

[jeff47]

18. Then they'll lose over and over again.

Sure, they'll try. If they succeed, they'll lose election after election until they pull their heads from their over-privileged asses.

[Flying Squirrel]

19. Superdelegates were created to stop someone like him

From becoming the party's nominee.

Will they dare go against the popular will if he wins more pledged delegates but it's close enough for them to overturn the results?

I honestly don't know the answer.

[snagglepuss]

22. IOW superdelegates would play their "trump" card -

Wouldn't that be something. If it came down to superdelegates inserting Hillary than I think she would definitely lose the GE, as there would be too much anger amongst those who support Bernie, specifically those who are independents.

[LiberalElite]

20. This is too depressing. I have to believe that

if they do pass these rules, in the long run they will be very very sorry, because people will put up with but so much. They must have slept through World History 101.

[olddots]

21. over my dead body

N.T.