Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumIf Bernie were to announce Senator Warren as his running mate--
--the election would be over in minutes.
http://www.politicalpeopleblog.com/progressives-rejoice-elizabeth-warren-is-now-the-most-likely-to-be-bernie-sanders-vp-choice/
ladjf
(17,320 posts)VP candidate if Bernie had the nomination locked up.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)But if sanders actually upsets the apple cart, that no longer applies i think.
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)In terms of perception of integrity, I don't think any other pair in Washington could touch them. If some some tragic reason, she had to fill in for Bernie, I can't think of a closer choice on the Domestic issues.
In terms of national security and foreign policy, they're very similar - not their strong suits.
Someone with John Kerry's kind of resume, military experience & foreign policy experience as Secretary of State (& before that) - complimentary experience to Bernie's might be a better choice.
eridani
(51,907 posts)Judgment is the key factor here, IMO.
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)I'm not sure Elizabeth is as acquainted with foreign policy and therefore, it's harder to extrapolate what her judgement on foreign policy issues might be. What critical foreign policy votes has she been faced with? Iran pact was close to a party divide.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I dont think putting someone else on the ticket who voted for it would be a good idea.
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)I think that pair worked out pretty well
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)primary.
If he had gotten in this cycle he would be below Hillary in terms of my preference. It's not just his IWR vote, his history as a major architect of the Drug War- all the way to his absolutely horrible RAVE act.
I respect Joe's achievements, I sympathize with what he's been through lately, but I would not support him in a primary nor would he have been my choice for the presidential ticket given the points I made.
Kerry, likewise, is an accomplished guy, smart, I wouldn't write him off as a potential veep pick- but for me, yeah, the IWR vote is a big hurdle.
I also am sort of of the opinion that if it is NOT someone like Warren, it would be great for our party to expand its bench beyond East Coast Baby Boomers. Gavin Newsom is probably set to be the next Governor of California, he's one to watch, but probably this year is too early for any sort of veep consideration. I would consider someone like Kamala Harris as well as a potential name in the future too. She would add a lot to a presidential ticket.
sabuthefuture
(5 posts)and future president of the United States that have integrity, character, experience, fortitude, and great ideas to restore justice and economic opportunity to the bottom 90%.
Hillary Clinton debate with Bernie Sanders February 5, 2016
There is this attack that he is putting out, which really comes down to, anybody who took donations or speaking fees from any interest group has to be bought, she said. And I just absolutely reject that, senator. And I really dont think these attacks by insinuation and innuendo are worthy of you. Enough is enough. If youve got something to say, say it directly.
Maureen Dowd Feb6, 2016 / Hillary Battles Bernie Sanders, Chick Magnet
"When Hillary accused Sanders during the debate of doing an artful smear on her, charging him with insinuating that she engaged in pay-for-play with Wall Street, drug companies and other special interests, some Republicans predicted that the moment would go down as a Gary Hart-style challenge that would come back to haunt her."
SMOKING GUN: Please listen to the middle of the video below about 12 minutes in and pay close attention to what Ms. Elizabeth Warren says in 2004. Keep in mind several times Hilary Clinton has put forth the idea that no one could show how receipt of donations towards her campaign have had any effect upon her voting record.
https://www.americarisingpac.org/flashback-elizabeth-warren-on-clinton-she-can-be-bought/
Hillary Clinton accused Bernie of insinuation and innuendo rather than speaking the truth. She accused him of playing games rather than being forthright. This video is the SMOKING GUN showing Bernie was being honest, not polite or disingenuous. She asked Bernie to basically present your evidence or shut-up. It was a challenge and the question is whether Bernie really believes he is the one who can lead this nation back to its goal of justice and opportunity for all. By everyone calling Bernie a socialist, or saying he does not have the experience to lead a nation as she has, critics demonstrate their ignorance. First by not understanding history that President Franklin Roosevelt also could be considered a socialist getting legislation passed like social security, unemployment insurance, and the New Deal. Yes, Hillary has had the experience in government and look at her track record. She voted for the Iraq war and proved when Secretary of State that she was not prepared for regime change. The loss of civilian lives of a half million and our brave soldiers lives of almost 6,500 is the cost of her judgment and proof that experience matters little if someone does not have the wisdom to make good decisions and policies as Bernie Sanders record does in government. Plus you need to look at Hillarys voting record on Gay, civil rights, and womens rights in contrast to Bernies, and not just for the last few years. When Bernie finishes office as President of the United States and has restored faith in government, equal opportunity to all, a level of economic and social justice so as to set an example for the rest of the world, then it will be time for Statespersons like Senator Elizabeth Warren or Patricia Scott Schroeder who served in the House of Representatives from 1973 to 1997 to serve in this position. Now these are only two of the several women capable of being a good president who have the integrity, the character, judgment, and the fortitude that would make any US citizen proud. Hillarys history as demonstrated by her actions demonstrates she is a true politician, one who puts her finger in the air and depending which way the wind is blowing, says what the citizenship would like to hear.
You need to read in the Huffington Post the article
Franklin D. Roosevelt: Socialist or "Champion of Freedom"?
04/23/2012 02:44 pm ET | Updated Jun 23, 2012 David Woolner
I have no need for any credit. This is a news story dedicated to all those in the media dedicated to tell the truth and the too many reporters throughout the world who have lost their lives just doing their job. The media that print this information are demonstrating they have integrity and are not in the pockets of special interests groups that have so much to lose if Bernie Sanders becomes President. His only special interest group that he is obliged to listen to is the average American citizen which includes about 90% of the people whether Democrat, Republican, or Independent who own as much as the other 1%.
MOST IMPORTANT IS PLEASE COPY THIS AND GET THIS TO EVERY PERSON ON YOUR MAILING LIST, TO EVERY NEWS ORGANIZATION, BLOG, THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. MOST NEWS ORGANIZATIONS WILL NEVER PRINT ANYTHING LIKE THIS AS THEY KNOW WHO PUTS THE BUTTER ON THEIR BREAD. BERNIE IS THEIR WORST NIGHTMARE AND TO BERNIE: PLEASE BE SAFE. THOSE IN POWER WILL GET DESPERATE AND THIS IS NO TIME TO UNDERESTIMATE THEIR INSANITY.
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)He (and the rest of us) would need her in the senate to help move the agenda along.
Pastiche423
(15,406 posts)I LOVE Elizabeth, but we so need her in the Senate to help pass Bernie's agenda.
We need lots and lots of progressive senators and representatives if we want to get progressive bills passed.
fourcents
(107 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)to announce a running mate.
Really. Let's get a whole lot closer to the nomination before this happens.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)be great. Just a hint on when he gets ready for a VP there are many great people then mention some but her first.
delrem
(9,688 posts)She would be so totally his backup and also front person especially on matters of economic reform, that the combination would be so winning as to be stratospheric.
Just sayin'
TBF
(32,063 posts)I did rec the post because I think the discussion is valuable.
He's a 74-yr old man who would be sworn in at age 75. With age comes experience and I think he is by far the best choice out there. But we need to remember that Reagan was just under 70 when elected. As the repugs love to remind us people are living longer so why not elect him? But we've got to be smart here. We need to have a very good VP with him who is capable of taking over and carrying out the term if necessary. I'm pissed off at Julian Castro for endorsing Hillary so early, but he is the best choice by far (41, turning 42 later this year, has run a major city - very popular ex mayor of San Antonio now running HUD).
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)I've been saying this for months. It's amazing how much power she has. I love it.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)I'd hate losing our two best Senators from the Senate at the same time. And I haven't seen anyone remotely qualified to replace her in the Senate step forward as a fill-in. That's why I'd rather get someone from the House of Reps or even a good mayor or state legislator as a running mate, and why I keep suggesting Barbara Lee, despite her age.