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If Bernie were to announce Senator Warren as his running mate-- (Original Post) eridani Feb 2016 OP
My guess is that Warren, a shrewd politician, would only agree to be the ladjf Feb 2016 #1
I agree. n/t eridani Feb 2016 #2
Yeah. I suspect there was VERY strong pressure put on her, not to run this year. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #10
I really like Elizabeth. If she was in this primary, it would be a tough call. Jarqui Feb 2016 #3
Both have about as much foreign policy experience as Obama in 2008 eridani Feb 2016 #4
You'd already have that kind of judgement with Bernie Jarqui Feb 2016 #5
One of the strongest arguments against HRC, to my mind, is her IWR vote. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #11
I think that's a good point though Biden also voted for the war Jarqui Feb 2016 #16
I have no complaints with Biden's performance as veep, but I never would have supported him in a Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #17
Here is the SMOKING GUN! / Senator Elizabeth Warren is only one of several women to choose as a runn sabuthefuture Feb 2016 #6
I'm definitely in favor! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #7
I just think she is so needed in the senate, I would hate to see her leave there now. hollysmom Feb 2016 #8
This is exactly why I think it's unlikely to be her Mufaddal Feb 2016 #9
I heartily agree with you Pastiche423 Feb 2016 #21
Or attorney general or Supreme court justice and she campaign for him fourcents Feb 2016 #12
It is about six months too early for Bernie, or Hillary for that matter, SheilaT Feb 2016 #13
I think him subtly mentioning Elizabeth in a hint would bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #14
I think that's 100% correct. delrem Feb 2016 #15
I love her but we need someone younger - TBF Feb 2016 #18
--the election would be over in minutes? SmittynMo Feb 2016 #19
I'd love the ticket, BUT... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #20

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
1. My guess is that Warren, a shrewd politician, would only agree to be the
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 02:18 AM
Feb 2016

VP candidate if Bernie had the nomination locked up.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
10. Yeah. I suspect there was VERY strong pressure put on her, not to run this year.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:31 AM
Feb 2016

But if sanders actually upsets the apple cart, that no longer applies i think.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
3. I really like Elizabeth. If she was in this primary, it would be a tough call.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 02:25 AM
Feb 2016

In terms of perception of integrity, I don't think any other pair in Washington could touch them. If some some tragic reason, she had to fill in for Bernie, I can't think of a closer choice on the Domestic issues.

In terms of national security and foreign policy, they're very similar - not their strong suits.

Someone with John Kerry's kind of resume, military experience & foreign policy experience as Secretary of State (& before that) - complimentary experience to Bernie's might be a better choice.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
4. Both have about as much foreign policy experience as Obama in 2008
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 02:26 AM
Feb 2016

Judgment is the key factor here, IMO.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
5. You'd already have that kind of judgement with Bernie
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 02:33 AM
Feb 2016

I'm not sure Elizabeth is as acquainted with foreign policy and therefore, it's harder to extrapolate what her judgement on foreign policy issues might be. What critical foreign policy votes has she been faced with? Iran pact was close to a party divide.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
11. One of the strongest arguments against HRC, to my mind, is her IWR vote.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:33 AM
Feb 2016

I dont think putting someone else on the ticket who voted for it would be a good idea.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
16. I think that's a good point though Biden also voted for the war
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:23 AM
Feb 2016

I think that pair worked out pretty well

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
17. I have no complaints with Biden's performance as veep, but I never would have supported him in a
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:37 AM
Feb 2016

primary.



If he had gotten in this cycle he would be below Hillary in terms of my preference. It's not just his IWR vote, his history as a major architect of the Drug War- all the way to his absolutely horrible RAVE act.

I respect Joe's achievements, I sympathize with what he's been through lately, but I would not support him in a primary nor would he have been my choice for the presidential ticket given the points I made.

Kerry, likewise, is an accomplished guy, smart, I wouldn't write him off as a potential veep pick- but for me, yeah, the IWR vote is a big hurdle.

I also am sort of of the opinion that if it is NOT someone like Warren, it would be great for our party to expand its bench beyond East Coast Baby Boomers. Gavin Newsom is probably set to be the next Governor of California, he's one to watch, but probably this year is too early for any sort of veep consideration. I would consider someone like Kamala Harris as well as a potential name in the future too. She would add a lot to a presidential ticket.


sabuthefuture

(5 posts)
6. Here is the SMOKING GUN! / Senator Elizabeth Warren is only one of several women to choose as a runn
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 02:54 AM
Feb 2016

and future president of the United States that have integrity, character, experience, fortitude, and great ideas to restore justice and economic opportunity to the bottom 90%.

Hillary Clinton debate with Bernie Sanders February 5, 2016

“There is this attack that he is putting out, which really comes down to, anybody who took donations or speaking fees from any interest group has to be bought,” she said. “And I just absolutely reject that, senator. And I really don’t think these attacks by insinuation and innuendo are worthy of you. Enough is enough. If you’ve got something to say, say it directly.”

Maureen Dowd Feb6, 2016 / Hillary Battles Bernie Sanders, Chick Magnet

"When Hillary accused Sanders during the debate of doing an “artful smear” on her, charging him with insinuating that she engaged in pay-for-play with Wall Street, drug companies and other special interests, some Republicans predicted that the moment would go down as a Gary Hart-style challenge that would come back to haunt her."

SMOKING GUN: Please listen to the middle of the video below about 12 minutes in and pay close attention to what Ms. Elizabeth Warren says in 2004. Keep in mind several times Hilary Clinton has put forth the idea that no one could show how receipt of donations towards her campaign have had any effect upon her voting record.



https://www.americarisingpac.org/flashback-elizabeth-warren-on-clinton-she-can-be-bought/

Hillary Clinton accused Bernie of insinuation and innuendo rather than speaking the truth. She accused him of playing games rather than being forthright. This video is the SMOKING GUN showing Bernie was being honest, not polite or disingenuous. She asked Bernie to basically present your evidence or shut-up. It was a challenge and the question is whether Bernie really believes he is the one who can lead this nation back to its goal of justice and opportunity for all. By everyone calling Bernie a socialist, or saying he does not have the experience to lead a nation as she has, critics demonstrate their ignorance. First by not understanding history that President Franklin Roosevelt also could be considered a socialist getting legislation passed like social security, unemployment insurance, and the New Deal. Yes, Hillary has had the experience in government and look at her track record. She voted for the Iraq war and proved when Secretary of State that she was not prepared for regime change. The loss of civilian lives of a half million and our brave soldiers’ lives of almost 6,500 is the cost of her judgment and proof that experience matters little if someone does not have the wisdom to make good decisions and policies as Bernie Sanders’ record does in government. Plus you need to look at Hillary’s voting record on Gay, civil rights, and women’s rights in contrast to Bernie’s, and not just for the last few years. When Bernie finishes office as President of the United States and has restored faith in government, equal opportunity to all, a level of economic and social justice so as to set an example for the rest of the world, then it will be time for “Statespersons” like Senator Elizabeth Warren or Patricia Scott Schroeder who served in the House of Representatives from 1973 to 1997 to serve in this position. Now these are only two of the several women capable of being a good president who have the integrity, the character, judgment, and the fortitude that would make any US citizen proud. Hillary’s history as demonstrated by her actions demonstrates she is a true politician, one who puts her finger in the air and depending which way the wind is blowing, says what the citizenship would like to hear.

You need to read in the Huffington Post the article
Franklin D. Roosevelt: Socialist or "Champion of Freedom"?

04/23/2012 02:44 pm ET | Updated Jun 23, 2012 David Woolner

I have no need for any credit. This is a news story dedicated to all those in the media dedicated to tell the truth and the too many reporters throughout the world who have lost their lives just doing their job. The media that print this information are demonstrating they have integrity and are not in the pockets of special interests groups that have so much to lose if Bernie Sanders becomes President. His only special interest group that he is obliged to listen to is the average American citizen which includes about 90% of the people whether Democrat, Republican, or Independent who own as much as the other 1%.

MOST IMPORTANT IS PLEASE COPY THIS AND GET THIS TO EVERY PERSON ON YOUR MAILING LIST, TO EVERY NEWS ORGANIZATION, BLOG, THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. MOST NEWS ORGANIZATIONS WILL NEVER PRINT ANYTHING LIKE THIS AS THEY KNOW WHO PUTS THE BUTTER ON THEIR BREAD. BERNIE IS THEIR WORST NIGHTMARE AND TO BERNIE: “PLEASE BE SAFE”. THOSE IN POWER WILL GET DESPERATE AND THIS IS NO TIME TO UNDERESTIMATE THEIR INSANITY.

michael / Human Being*
The WISDOM of SABU

Sisters And Brothers Universal
"Uplifting the Spirit by sharing the wealth"
"Que eleva el Espíritu al compartir la riqueza"

*Rather than live as a marionette, a consequence of the conditioning and other negative experiences one suffers from childhood on, a Human Being prefers to be free, independent, responsible, wise, happy, loving, and compassionate. By cutting the strings that control them and striving to reach their fullest potential, they are best able to help their Sisters And Brothers Universal do the same/SABU

Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
9. This is exactly why I think it's unlikely to be her
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:18 AM
Feb 2016

He (and the rest of us) would need her in the senate to help move the agenda along.

Pastiche423

(15,406 posts)
21. I heartily agree with you
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:45 PM
Feb 2016

I LOVE Elizabeth, but we so need her in the Senate to help pass Bernie's agenda.

We need lots and lots of progressive senators and representatives if we want to get progressive bills passed.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
13. It is about six months too early for Bernie, or Hillary for that matter,
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:59 AM
Feb 2016

to announce a running mate.

Really. Let's get a whole lot closer to the nomination before this happens.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
14. I think him subtly mentioning Elizabeth in a hint would
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 05:36 AM
Feb 2016

be great. Just a hint on when he gets ready for a VP there are many great people then mention some but her first.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
15. I think that's 100% correct.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 05:47 AM
Feb 2016

She would be so totally his backup and also front person especially on matters of economic reform, that the combination would be so winning as to be stratospheric.

Just sayin'

TBF

(32,063 posts)
18. I love her but we need someone younger -
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:10 AM
Feb 2016

I did rec the post because I think the discussion is valuable.

He's a 74-yr old man who would be sworn in at age 75. With age comes experience and I think he is by far the best choice out there. But we need to remember that Reagan was just under 70 when elected. As the repugs love to remind us people are living longer so why not elect him? But we've got to be smart here. We need to have a very good VP with him who is capable of taking over and carrying out the term if necessary. I'm pissed off at Julian Castro for endorsing Hillary so early, but he is the best choice by far (41, turning 42 later this year, has run a major city - very popular ex mayor of San Antonio now running HUD).

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
19. --the election would be over in minutes?
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:15 AM
Feb 2016

I've been saying this for months. It's amazing how much power she has. I love it.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
20. I'd love the ticket, BUT...
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:16 AM
Feb 2016

I'd hate losing our two best Senators from the Senate at the same time. And I haven't seen anyone remotely qualified to replace her in the Senate step forward as a fill-in. That's why I'd rather get someone from the House of Reps or even a good mayor or state legislator as a running mate, and why I keep suggesting Barbara Lee, despite her age.

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