Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumJust watched Bernie and he was just so charming.
But again I'm really biased. I think he did such a good job. It wasn't a
gotcha session from Anderson. He let Bernie run with his answers. I'm here with
my pint of Newcastle. Now the question is do I want to listen to Hillary? I watched
Bernie but have TYT on which is audio only. I think I might be able to listen to her.
Hm not sure. But gotta say I loved Bernie tonight.
hoosierlib
(710 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)I think it makes her look small and petty especially since he had nothing bad to say about her.
leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)generation? Poor Hillary!!!
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)Just as quickly as she changes her position on any thing.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)Poor little me...
leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)in the chips. Sorry but I invest in the market and insurance
companies are doing quite well. In fact the ACA has been a boon
to the insurance industry.
global1
(25,251 posts)to pay those excessive and ever rising premiums to the insurance companies.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)and I cry crocodile tears for her.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Totally pissed me off that she has the effing Nerve to compare herself to Wellstone, a great, great progressive. She's no progressive and she can't be allowed to co-opt Progressivism and let people think SHE is what progressivism represents!
She makes my blood boil.
Bernie was so wonderful!
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
kath
(10,565 posts)Jeebus H. Christ on a Trailer Hitch.
appalachiablue
(41,140 posts)Clinton just started, it's alright, seated discussing questions of Andy.
Glad you're enjoying your Newcastle.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)She certainly is trying to be softer in her cadence tonight. Every now and then she's still slipping, but she's trying.
Now if she'd just work on the over use of her "I's" and "me-s."
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)You'd rather listen to a fake Democrat who attacked the Democratic Party than someone who has sold out our beliefs for campaign funds?
What kind of Democrat are you? Party before principles!
MuseRider
(34,111 posts)There are 3 of us here and all of us thought he was great.
Watching Hillary is hard for me. I think it is important to listen but I have done that. Now I just think that I might have to vote for her and the less I listen the easier it will be for me. I hear her during debates (thank goodness there will be more) and I read here about her both from those for and those against.
Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)but I'm afraid the sheer volume of her smugness will blow out my speakers.
MuseRider
(34,111 posts)and I am well versed in her history as well. This is why it is hard for me to listen to her. It isn't her voice, although that is a little irritating but her ideas and the way she presents them. It irritates me.
I have never been overly fond of her or Bill, although he is so damned charismatic it is hard until I remind myself what he did. I really hoped we were done with them. They have done enough and it is NOT her turn.
leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)She really has a machine going and it bothers me greatly! I'm still raw
over Iowa.
MuseRider
(34,111 posts)she will not get my vote when I caucus. Never, ever...oh that is her thought about Universal Health Care, lol.
Bernie all the way, at this point my trust that he will not be coming out with something awful is 100%.
If it were not for the scary place we as women are in I might do a write in (I am in Kansas, I have never had a vote count). I have to trust she will not let women get pushed further away from equality.
Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)I can't bear to take her off mute.
leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)I'm trying to listen her but again not really.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)I left the room after Bernie's segment. My husband watched Hillary and filled me in. There was much shouting and a few expletives from the TV room in my absence.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)In the same neighborhood that Bernie lived in. Listening to him is so comforting to my ears. It's like listening to a member of my family and friends.
One of the reasons, not a main one, why I wholeheartedly support Bernie is because he's originally from Brooklyn. Brooklyn would be the 4th largest city in the US, and we have never had a president from Brooklyn. It's about time we had a president from Brooklyn.
leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)feel the way you do? Just curious.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)He was talking to people naturally
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Capt.Rocky300
(1,005 posts)My blood pressure just can't take listening to her nastiness "Sen. Sanders appointed himself gatekeeper of what a progressive is" or her practiced I'm just like everybody else phoniness.
Now watching a re-run of TBBT.
californiabernin
(421 posts)Not worth listening.
She should have just said I respect Bernie and his accomplishments and passion, etc. and then gone on to explain why she feels she is progressive and why she disagrees. That kind of talk is just going to turn more people off. Not smart.
leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)brothers. Do you believe that? I don't. She can't take money
from them and really believe what she is saying! I think she really
means Her billionaires are OK but not the Repubs billionaires.
leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)californiabernin
(421 posts)So, that is a pretty weak argument she is making.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)""Sen. Sanders appointed himself gatekeeper of what a progressive is"
Did she really say that?
Capt.Rocky300
(1,005 posts)as they were recorded on tivo.
"I was somewhat amused today that Sen. Sanders has set himself up to be the gatekeeper on who is a progressive because under the definition flying around on twitter and statements by the campaign, Barrack Obama would not be a progressive, Joe Biden would not be a progressive, Jean Shaheen would not be a progressive, even the late great Sen. Paul Wellstone would not be a progressive. So, I'm not going to let that bother me."
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)...for me, especially after losing so many of my political heroes in the same way when I was young--JFK, RFK, MLK. It hurts bad.
And to have an Iraq War yes-voter use his name in this way rubs salt in the wound, to say the least. He intended to, and would have, stopped the Iraq War in the Senate, if he had lived. That was clear to me at the time. And it is still clear. And Hillary Clinton was one of the saboteurs of that beautiful anti-war movement that arose briefly, with leaders like Wellstone and Sanders in Congress, with millions of Americans behind them (56% opposed to the war--many people didn't notice those early polls; I did and it gave me a wonderful sense of relief that most Americans were not goose-stepping to Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld) and millions marching against that horrible war. And she voted FOR WAR.
How dare she use Wellstone's name in this way--to bash Bernie Sanders, who is very close to Wellstone in spirit and in policy! It's as if she isn't just content to try to impose amnesia on us all; it's as if she wants to rub our noses in it--in the hundreds of thousands of people blown apart, in the millions displaced, in dead and wounded U.S. soldiers, in the shattering of a country and a region (as Bernie predicted, and as it turned out). How dare she use Wellstone's name, when he gave his life trying to stop that horror and she voted FOR it!
It still hurts bad.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)DirtyHippyBastard
(217 posts)He was human. Plants are green.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Hillary has gotten softballs. She just spoke for about 15 minutes without addressing any issues.
Akamai
(1,779 posts)the park. A very, very, very good night for Bernie!
Go Bernie!!!!
Myrina
(12,296 posts)He was completely charming, approachable, and really seemed to enjoy the format. And he was in command of the issues and respectful not only to AC, but also to the audience and to "others" that were referenced.
I decided not to watch the 2nd half - it would just piss off. So I'm watching The Matrix instead ... the closing lines are just perfect: " ... I know youre out there. I can feel you now. I know that youre afraid. Youre afraid of us. Youre afraid of change. I dont know the future. I didnt come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how its going to begin. Im going to hang up this phone, and then Im going to show these people what you dont want them to see. Im going to show them a world
without you. A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you."
zentrum
(9,865 posts)mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)I'm not looking to blast HRC but, to me, her efforts at sincerity just reminded me of why people doubt her.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)when they disagree with him. He is humble and clearly thinks of eveyone else, not just himself.