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Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 09:45 PM Feb 2016

Elizabeth Warren Defends Bernie Sanders From Goldman Sachs Criticism

Elizabeth Warren entered the intensifying battle for the Democratic presidential nomination, defending Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders from a new attack by the head of Goldman Sachs — a Wall Street behemoth whose executives have delivered hundreds of thousands of dollars to Hillary Clinton, her presidential campaign and her family’s foundation.

In an interview with International Business Times hours before Wednesday night’s Democratic town hall in New Hampshire, the Massachusetts senator — whose endorsement is coveted by both Democratic candidates — slammed Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein for asserting earlier in the day that Sanders’ criticism of Wall Street had created a dangerous environment in America.

"He thinks it’s fine to prosecute small business owners, it’s fine to go hard after individuals who have no real resources, but don’t criticize companies like Goldman Sachs and their very, very important CEO — that’s what he’s really saying,” Warren told IBT.

In January, Sanders pointed to billionaire Blankfein as a prime example of the corporate greed he says is harming the United States. Sanders also released a television ad in which he slammed Goldman Sachs by name, and he has criticized Clinton, a former senator and secretary of state, for accepting $675,000 of speaking fees and $930,000 of campaign contributions from the firm and its executives during her career. A Goldman Sachs employee has given $100,000 to a super PAC supporting Clinton’s 2016 campaign, and the firm has donated at least $250,000 to her family’s foundation — which in 2014 held a donor meeting at the company’s Manhattan headquarters.

Blankfein responded to Sanders’ criticism on Wednesday in an appearance on CNBC, saying the intensity of the criticism created an environment that “has the potential to be a dangerous moment — not just for Wall Street, not just for the people who are particularly targeted, but for anybody who is a little bit out of line.”

Warren, a Democrat, disputed that notion in harsh terms, telling IBT that such statements show why American voters should focus on Wall Street’s power during the 2016 election.

“When Blankfein says that criticizing those who break the rules is dangerous to the economy, then he’s just repeating another variation of ‘too big to fail,’ ‘too big to jail,’ 'too big even to prosecute,'” she said. “That tells you here we are, seven years after the crisis and these guys still don’t get it. Seven years. That crisis cost an estimated $14 trillion, it cost jobs, it cost homes, it cost retirement funds. And Lloyd Blankfein stands up and says ‘Don’t even criticize me, I ran a company that was right at the heart of some of the biggest financial frauds in history and made money off it, but don’t you dare criticize me.’ That’s his position? That’s why we need voters to get really engaged.”

Continued: http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/election-2016-elizabeth-warren-defends-bernie-sanders-goldman-sachs-criticism
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Elizabeth Warren Defends Bernie Sanders From Goldman Sachs Criticism (Original Post) Mufaddal Feb 2016 OP
Now I'm going to sit back and watch HRC supporters tear Senator Warren up. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #1
pass the corn MrChuck Feb 2016 #2
kinda dragging it out more but corn away PatrynXX Feb 2016 #20
Passing corn hurts! DJ13 Feb 2016 #34
This should be fun to watch Kilgore Feb 2016 #51
While it's easy for them to hate Sanders it's not that easy to hate Sen Warren. nm rhett o rick Feb 2016 #6
I know, they must be biting their lips. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #7
So when Elizabeth Warren formally endorses Bernie Sanders INdemo Feb 2016 #17
kinda kill the fictional Sexist argument PatrynXX Feb 2016 #21
I'm A Bernie Supporter... I Don't Particularly Want Her To ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #57
hmmm. strategic! hopemountain Feb 2016 #62
Didn't THEY Say She Couldn't Win Against Scott Brown? ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #64
Oh, they will. Warren is great, but how dare she not kowtow to the throne! Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #9
I wish them luck with that:) litlbilly Feb 2016 #11
Hehe. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #13
In reality... Cheviteau Feb 2016 #54
Oh hell yes. cui bono Feb 2016 #3
Hillary reminds me of a monkey erlewyne Feb 2016 #46
I'm really grateful that we have Elizabeth Warren to stand up to these criminals. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2016 #4
And those that claim HRC is tough should note that she isn't tough on Wall Street crime. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #8
K & R AzDar Feb 2016 #5
I really like Bernie and hope he wins, but Red Oak Feb 2016 #10
That could be .....Elizabeth Warren needs to endorse soon INdemo Feb 2016 #36
Warren does not have to endorse anybody. mikehiggins Feb 2016 #38
Bernie will get so pummeled from all sides that Warren will feel the moral imperative to somehow dinkytron Feb 2016 #39
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #12
Hillary is the water girl for Goldman Sachs Don Draper Feb 2016 #14
The knives will come out now. blackspade Feb 2016 #15
Funny! So was Hillary! She was a "Goldwater Girl"! Peace Patriot Feb 2016 #32
Well, that was in the 60s blackspade Feb 2016 #33
It's all... DUbeornot2be Feb 2016 #16
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #18
Just trying to do my part to man the barricades Mufaddal Feb 2016 #23
It's A Blackmail Threat billhicks76 Feb 2016 #19
Bernie took off the gloves, and Elizabeth is showing her preferences ErisDiscordia Feb 2016 #22
So Obama Why Was Blankfein Not Prosecuted? scottie55 Feb 2016 #24
Next time, he says ejbr Feb 2016 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author CobaltBlue Feb 2016 #25
Another water boy for Wall Street. n/t ozone_man Feb 2016 #60
Blankfein, When The Day Comes Where You Get What You Deserve scottie55 Feb 2016 #26
Anyone else notice that it's not an establisment 3rd way Democrat that represents the heart raindaddy Feb 2016 #27
Well said fbc Feb 2016 #30
Well, here's the problem. Blankfein and all the other Wall Street lizards, PatrickforO Feb 2016 #28
Hear, hear!!! Moostache Feb 2016 #41
Right on! she's absolutely right! mountain grammy Feb 2016 #29
Yeah Senator Warren. nt malokvale77 Feb 2016 #31
Under the bus? PonyUp Feb 2016 #35
K&R. This is a major statenent. Thank you, Senator Warren. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #37
I am keeping mental track of those who attack Sanders and Warren's positions... Moostache Feb 2016 #40
Insh'allah Fawke Em Feb 2016 #42
Blankfein isn't endorsing anyone this year eridani Feb 2016 #43
'whether he was backing Clinton this time around' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #52
I saw that too. n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #53
Seems to me his statement right there was an endorsement. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #59
I can't even type what I think of Blankfein and his ilk StandingInLeftField Feb 2016 #44
Fuck Blankfein ... Helen Borg Feb 2016 #45
K&R nt raouldukelives Feb 2016 #47
Voters, get really engaged! Know what that means? Enthusiast Feb 2016 #48
K & R! TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #49
Awesome accuracy as always from Warren stuffmatters Feb 2016 #50
What thee hell maindawg Feb 2016 #55
Right? Gorgatron Feb 2016 #61
If she cares about the same things as Bernie NowSam Feb 2016 #56
Warren is right... This is two criminal justice systems! MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #63

MrChuck

(279 posts)
2. pass the corn
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 09:51 PM
Feb 2016

actually I'm not sure they'll do that.

I think there's still some lingering hope, however delusional, that she'll pitch in with Camp Weathervane.

I kind of understand why she doesn't endorse but I really wish she would.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
7. I know, they must be biting their lips.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:12 PM
Feb 2016

Either that or they've called a meeting and have stepped away to decide how to handle it.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
17. So when Elizabeth Warren formally endorses Bernie Sanders
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:43 PM
Feb 2016

what will the Hillary supporters be saying then about Warren?

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
21. kinda kill the fictional Sexist argument
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:02 PM
Feb 2016

except he's a Feminist , how are Feminists Sexist anyway??

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
57. I'm A Bernie Supporter... I Don't Particularly Want Her To
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:01 PM
Feb 2016

endorse right now. I love her and all she's done, but what she's saying and how she's saying it means a lot more. She also is saying what SHE'S ALWAYS SAID!

JMHO!

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
62. hmmm. strategic!
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:29 PM
Feb 2016

hope she does more of this while people are still listening only to those who either have not yet endorsed either of them or others who are endorsing the hillary machine.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
64. Didn't THEY Say She Couldn't Win Against Scott Brown?
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 12:10 AM
Feb 2016

I'm just thinking out loud, but she's smart and who better to know how it feels? She walked in the same type of shoes. She KNOWS what they want and the pressure must be immense. The "system" is being challenged. Like playing poker maybe. You get in the game and get dealt a hand and nobody knows what cards she's holding.

Bad hand, she has to fold to play again. I really don't know. As I said, just thinking out loud. I'm no psychic.

Cheviteau

(383 posts)
54. In reality...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 06:02 PM
Feb 2016

...Senator Warren is daring the Clinton camp to come to the rescue and defend Mr. Blankfein. They have three choices: dispute Warren; defend Blankfein; or let it slide. None of the three is a good option.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,622 posts)
4. I'm really grateful that we have Elizabeth Warren to stand up to these criminals.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 09:54 PM
Feb 2016

She's unafraid and gets out there with her very clear and on-point message.

She is a national treasure!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
8. And those that claim HRC is tough should note that she isn't tough on Wall Street crime.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:12 PM
Feb 2016

She is tough on crime in the 99%. She supports Prisons For Profit and they support her.

Red Oak

(697 posts)
10. I really like Bernie and hope he wins, but
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:15 PM
Feb 2016

I really would like to have seen a Clinton/ Warren nomination fight.

Senator Warren would have chewed Sec. Clinton up and spit out the bones.

Maybe Sanders/Warren 2016?

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
36. That could be .....Elizabeth Warren needs to endorse soon
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:27 AM
Feb 2016

and if Bernie wins NH ...I think Elizabeth Warren will endorse Bernie Sanders soon after his NH win.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
38. Warren does not have to endorse anybody.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:32 AM
Feb 2016

Actually, as long as she stays away from that she'll be as much help to the Sanders campaign as President Obama's fulsome praise of Hillary is to hers.

As long as she doesn't support HRC I'll be happy.

dinkytron

(568 posts)
39. Bernie will get so pummeled from all sides that Warren will feel the moral imperative to somehow
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:33 AM
Feb 2016

step in and stop the pleading. She will become a dynamic surrogate... which is what she sort of did today.

Don Draper

(187 posts)
14. Hillary is the water girl for Goldman Sachs
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:22 PM
Feb 2016

Like FDR, the banksters hate Bernie and Bernie welcomes their hate.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
15. The knives will come out now.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:40 PM
Feb 2016

I've already seen the "She used to be a Repub" line pop up fairly often from a few Clinton supporters lately.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
33. Well, that was in the 60s
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:07 AM
Feb 2016

So I don't hold that against her at this point.
There are a ton more pertinent issues about her policy positions that do concern to me though.

 

scottie55

(1,400 posts)
24. So Obama Why Was Blankfein Not Prosecuted?
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:22 PM
Feb 2016

Cuz the $$ have gave you for your campaign right?

I know, I know, it's the system not you right?

Actually it is the system.

Bernie knows it.

Warren knows it.

I know it.

You all know it.

Who is gonna change it?

Hillary?

Buuahghha[[ghahgpagpyhahahahah........

Response to Mufaddal (Original post)

 

scottie55

(1,400 posts)
26. Blankfein, When The Day Comes Where You Get What You Deserve
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:25 PM
Feb 2016

Don't complain.

Especially after starving millions of people to death to make a profit in '08.

To call you scum is an insult to slime.

You are beyond scum.

Of course the people who died were poor, and powerless.

That makes it ok right?

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
27. Anyone else notice that it's not an establisment 3rd way Democrat that represents the heart
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:25 PM
Feb 2016

and soul of the Democratic Party, it's Elizabeth Warren.. Her endorsement means more than a dozen Nancy Pelosi's....

PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
28. Well, here's the problem. Blankfein and all the other Wall Street lizards,
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:33 PM
Feb 2016

as well as the big corporate oligarchs, are parasites. They are the ones who are out of line. They are out of line with their greed, which holds that we must lose in order that they win. They are out of line because they are willing to make decisions for the sake of profit that cause people to die.

In my opinion, we should take away the Fed's charter and begin printing our own money. We should reimpose strict regulation on Wall Street and pull their fangs so we cannot be poisoned by bundled derivatives again, which is happening now.

The truth is, Lloyd, that everyday working Americans have NOTHING in common with you, and our interests are not yours. You and your ilk have got to go.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
40. I am keeping mental track of those who attack Sanders and Warren's positions...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:46 AM
Feb 2016

The Democratic Party may splinter itself if it continues to have warring factions tearing into the fabric of what it means to be a Democrat at all...

Universal Healthcare
Environmental Stewardship
Social Safety Nets that Matter
Fair Labor Standards
Equitable Distribution of the Nation's Wealth

and most importantly - we live in a democratic republic, NOT A FREAKING MONARCHY!!!

The "crown" of power is not granted or waited for, it is earned only by supporting those precepts.
For those that only see genitalia and time "in line"... I won't waste my time trying...

eridani

(51,907 posts)
43. Blankfein isn't endorsing anyone this year
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:24 AM
Feb 2016
Goldman Sachs Chief Threatened by 'Dangerous' Criticism from Sanders

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/02/03/goldman-sachs-chief-threatened-dangerous-criticism-sanders

"To personalize it, it has potential to be a dangerous moment," Blankfein told CNBC on Wednesday. "Not just for Wall Street…but for anybody who is a little bit out of line."

Blankfein also reportedly argued "that Sanders and his ilk are too rigid to get anything done," as The Hill put it.

On the campaign trail, Sanders has criticized not only big banks, but rival Hillary Clinton's cozy ties to them.

Bloomberg notes that Blankfein—who supported Clinton for president in 2008—also "declined to endorse a candidate for the 2016 U.S. presidential election, saying his imprimatur could harm that person's chances."

"I don't want to help or hurt anybody by giving them an endorsement,” Blankfein said in response to a question about whether he was backing Clinton this time around.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
52. 'whether he was backing Clinton this time around'
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 04:59 PM
Feb 2016

So he backed her before, but now that he knows that his endorsement hurts her, he wants to hold off on that, eh?

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
59. Seems to me his statement right there was an endorsement.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:15 PM
Feb 2016

I don't want to say who I support cause it will hurt them = Hillary endorsement.

44. I can't even type what I think of Blankfein and his ilk
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:50 AM
Feb 2016

I would probably get a little "visit" from guys in black suits and ear pieces.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
48. Voters, get really engaged! Know what that means?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 03:20 PM
Feb 2016

If we don't reinstate Glass Steagal tax payers are once again going to be on the hook for massive losses. For we have privatized the profits and socialized the losses.

Gorgatron

(95 posts)
61. Right?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:15 PM
Feb 2016
"has the potential to be a dangerous moment — not just for Wall Street, not just for the people who are particularly targeted, but for anybody who is a little bit out of line"


Specifically the "anybody who is a little bit out of line" part. Not sure what type of person exactly he is referring to, but I'm assuming that he thinks Bernie, or anyone else who would DARE suggest that him or people like him were a huge part of the reason the economy crashed in 2008 and are a threat to the U.S., is out of line so....

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
56. If she cares about the same things as Bernie
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:31 PM
Feb 2016

Then she ought to officially endorse him sooner rather than later. The stakes are very high and the future will either be run by the people or continue to be run by the Oligarchs. If she truly cares then now is the time. Time to take a stand.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
63. Warren is right... This is two criminal justice systems!
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:44 PM
Feb 2016

I'll tell you what's dangerous. The point where people continue to put up with this shit...

here we are, seven years after the crisis and these guys still don’t get it. Seven years. That crisis cost an estimated $14 trillion, it cost jobs, it cost homes, it cost retirement funds. And Lloyd Blankfein stands up and says ‘Don’t even criticize me, I ran a company that was right at the heart of some of the biggest financial frauds in history and made money off it, but don’t you dare criticize me.


This is a grotesque version of the criminal justice system where the 0.1% cannot commit crimes, and the poor are ignored to death. Throw a person in jail for stealing food during a natural disaster, or Katrina, gentrification of neighborhoods because money = control of the cost of living until people can't live anymore.

Lloyd Blankfein should have been perp walked years ago. He certainly doesn't deserve to get away with an exclusive opinion against the 99% and make threats to anyone willing to lead on America's disastrous two criminal justice system... especially with the criminal banking industry that owns Congress.

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