Bernie quotes Hillary. "Low blow," says Hillary.

[merrily]

September 10, 2015 news story out of Ohio about a talk she gave in Ohio at a Women for Hillary event in Ohio:

Hillary:

You know, I get accused of being kind of moderate and center. I plead guilty.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/10/politics/hillary-clinton-democrat-progressive/

October 13, 2015 news story about the Democratic debate:

Cooper asked Clinton if she changed her political stance based on who she was talking to and mentioned a comment that she made last month in New Hampshire in which she said that she pleaded "guilty" to "being kind of moderate and center."

Hillary:

I'm a progressive, who likes to gets things done.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hillary-clinton-progressive


February 1, 2016 news story about Hillary's self-declared victory speech during the Iowa caucuses

As the Iowa caucuses were winding down, Hillary described herself as a progressive and a change agent.

Hillary:

I am a progressive who get things done for people. I am honored to stand in the long line of American reformers who make up our minds that the status quo is not good enough, that standing still is not an option, and that brings people together to find ways forward that will improve the lives of Americans.

http://www.democracynow.org/2016/2/1/watch_hillary_clinton_touts_progressive_record

Bernie:

Except when she announces that she is a proud moderate, and then I guess she is not a progressive.

Hillary described Sanders' comment as a low blow!

http://time.com/4206675/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-new-hampshire-primary-progressive/

[retrowire]

1. LOL

That's hilarious.

[merrily]

23. I, too, enjoy Hillary's great sense of humor.

I enjoy it so much that, sometimes, I search "Hillary Clinton Laugh" on You Tube.

[retrowire]

24. The laugh that sounds like

"AH AH AH AHHHHHH"?

Yeah....

[merrily]

26. Whoever hasn't been won over by her ability to laugh at

things like the prospect of nuclear war must have a heart of stone.

[A Simple Game]

46. She always laughs at the mention of death and/or destruction, always, and with that evil grin. n/t

[raindaddy]

80. She always laughs at the mention of big payoffs from Wall Street for speaking engagements...

She's having fun running for President...

[merrily]

94. Who could not laugh at the sight of her laughing? I ask you!

Seriously, who?

[raindaddy]

105. Hillary laughs and the whole world laughs at her!

Ok, maybe not the WHOLE world!

[merrily]

113. Smile when you say that.

[bvf]

52. That certainly humanizes her in *my* book. n/t

[merrily]

55. You get her. These other posters, well, what can I say?

[arikara]

137. You mean this laugh?

We came, we saw he died... HA HA HAHAAHA!!!

[Stryder]

61. Don't recall where I heard it...

but it bears repeating...
If camp Hillary quits lying about Bernie,
He'll quit telling the truth about her.

[litlbilly]

73. My thoughts exactly

[99th_Monkey]

2. Come on Bernie! Hillary "wiped" that from her memory once you entered the primary ..

like with a cloth or something?

[merrily]

7. Please don't quote Hillary on DU. It's such a low blow.

Quoting Hillary verbatim is the sort of tactic belongs only on FREEP.

[99th_Monkey]

19. Doh! What was i thinking ?

[hopemountain]

29. the donald told her to say that nt

[merrily]

100. He wants her to make America great again! Like it was before the DLC took

over the Democratic Party.

[Jarqui]

3. Hillary caught dead to rights pandering out of both sides of her mouth

I do think as a candidate, it is fair game to point that tendency out in your opponent - particularity one who has flip-flopped as much as Hillary has.

It's not Bernie's fault or the GOP's fault 60% of the country thinks she is untrustworthy. It's because of two-faced pandering crap like the above.

[merrily]

9. Inconsistent statements are indeed fair game.

The guys who wrote Game Change just mocked Hillary for this on MSNBC.

[AlbertCat]

87. Hillary caught dead to rights pandering out of both sides of her mouth...

... again!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

129. And the sun rises in the east... what else is new?

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[nc4bo]

4. Hillary: "blah blah blah lies blah blah blah".

[noiretextatique]

5. maybe she's a progressive centrist

or a centrist progressive i find her foot-in-mouth disease as troubling as her tendency to play the victim.

[merrily]

11. "What do political terms even mean anymore?"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/127710158

Good to see you, noiretextatique! It's been a while.

[noiretextatique]

20. it got a bit too toxic

and i had to take a break. always good to see you

[merrily]

25. Yes. From what I've seen of DU in 2008, it got toxic then too.

Sometimes, I do a DU search for something and 2008 posts come up.

[noiretextatique]

27. i've been here since 2002, i think

2008 was pretty bad, but this is the worst i've seen. not surprising...there is finally a real progressive in the race. i;ve lost some friends this time...that never happened before. oh well...

[merrily]

31. I saw a post in which someone who has nothing but praise for Hillary now

described her in 2008 as, IIRC, a crypto fascist. And that was under the mods!

[Lazy Daisy]

39. People who abandon you over politics aren't friends

They're just people who found you to be convenient until you weren't

[FailureToCommunicate]

70. +1

[Lorien]

117. She is neither:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2016

[NowSam]

6. Ha! By the way, how exactly is it a low blow...

...to repeat back verbatim what a candidate said? How exactly is that a low blow? I guess the truth hurts sometimes.

[Sherman A1]

8. When

that candidate is itching to get into a campaign of negative ads and personal attacks, which is something that just doesn't work against Bernie Sanders.

But, that's just my opinion.....

[NowSam]

10. True that!

Can't climb out so drag your opponent into the mud. Tired old tactic. Bernie won't take the bait.

[merrily]

14. Exactly! Every time she or her campaign accuse Sanders of a low blow or going negative, they are

planning low blows against Sanders. A news story coming out of Iowa said Bubba was hinting at going (more) negative against Sanders.

They've already done sssssocialisssst to death, I wonder what's coming? He was openly a conscientious objector like Muhammed Ali, instead of working behind the scenes to stay out of the draft, like Bubba?

[99th_Monkey]

21. You nailed it exactly! Playing victim to justify vicious (actual) attacks on Bernie. n/t

[merrily]

12. Please don't question Hillary's own comments on DU.

That's not what a Democratic political message board is for during a Democratic political primary.

The media asked Sanders if his comment was a low blow or a lie. He replied it was a quote!

[pangaia]

30. She just mis-spoke herself.

[merrily]

33. A politician's inadvertently revealing the truth is a horrifying accident.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

130. Hillary's a progressive who gets things done? Really? hmmm...

Like taking dirty Wall Street money, giving Chimpy the IWR vote he needed to invade Iraq, supporting shitty trade deals that send U.S. jobs overseas, etc etc?

No, wait! That was before Hillary hit the Craftmatic "Bernie Impersonator" Reset Button... now she's a progressive who gets things done!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[Lucky Luciano]

58. When the quote is taken out of context, it is a low blow.

This was not a low blow.

[merrily]

93. Great distinction.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

131. Yes, but that quote was BEFORE Hillary began channeling her "inner-Bernie"...

So, yeah, low blow...not fair. lol

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[dana_b]

136. when that candidate realizes that she is losing a portion of the

voters to another candidate who actually IS what she claims to be. That's how - in Hillary's world anyway.

[ljm2002]

13. "I don't give 'em Hell"...

..."I just tell the truth about them and they think it's Hell!"

-- Harry S. Truman

Give 'em Hell, Bernie!!!

[merrily]

15. Adlai Stevenson said something similar:

I have been thinking that I would make a proposition to my Republican friends... that if they will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them.
Campaign statement in Fresno, California (10 September 1952); earlier incidence of similar comments exist:

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adlai_Stevenson_II

I don't know which I like better. I guess it depends on context.

[ljm2002]

16. They're both great quotes...

...and worth remembering, to be used as appropriate!

[mindwalker_i]

17. I remember Cheney saying the exact same thing

... about a similar issue. The phrase is meant to imply that there is something unethical about a subject someone is bringing up, and specifically to deflect from the actual unethical behavior of the person it is directed against. So in this case, it is unethical for Sanders to point out how Hillary changes her position depending on who she wants to pander to at the moment. In reality, it is unethical for Hillary to change her positions depending on her audience.

The whole issue shows a much deeper issue that Hillary won't take responsibility for the positions she's taken or the things she's said. There's a little bit of phychopathy involved here. She's definitely not someone who should be in a leadership position.

[merrily]

18. Beautifully put.

The authors of Game Change pointed out that she tries to have it both ways, which is, IMO, very characteristic of both Clintons:

On the one hand, she claims to be more electable than Sanders. On the other hand, she's been copying his positions and trying to sound more like him.

This is nothing new. Google

Hillary Clinton muddled message legacy.

[99th_Monkey]

22. THIS is exactly what voters are saying, loud & clear, that they HATE in a candidate.

Are NH voters "gullible" enough to swallow this? I'm betting not so much.

[merrily]

28. Bernie can help them see it, just by quoting her own inconsistent statements,

as he did today.

[JDPriestly]

32. Hillary is no progressive. Look at her stance on single payer. Not a progressive.

[merrily]

36. Sorry. You will have to be more specific: to which stance of Hillary on Medicare for All are you

referring?

The US will have Medicare for All by the year 2000?

or

The US will never have Medicare for all?

or


Finish the job of Medicare for All --every man, woman and child?

[bvf]

76. Yes, those ones.

The beauty of backing a candidate who's all over the map is that one has a wide variety of inconsistent views to point to.

Oh, except on the question of going to war, or, shit, just committing ground troops, she's pretty consistent.

I loved it when she said she would not be in favor of sending 10,000 ground troops to the ME. My first thought was, "well, how many you you like to send?

[merrily]

77. "No boots on the ground" is another one of those things that sounds so much better than it is.

Same for "no fly zone."

Frank Luntz literally made a career out of coming up with those better-sounding terms for bad stuff on behalf of Republicans.

[bvf]

88. Yes! Control the language.

Incipient Newspeak is all it is. A complicit, embedding-friendly media that has happily avoided providing us images of dead kids being shipped home in boxes hasn't hurt, either.

Fuck Luntz and his focus groups. At least Newt Gingrich ("Contract for America" aside), limited himself to distributing booklets of disgusting names to call political opponents to his minions. Frank Luntz lives to put smilies on human horror.

[merrily]

92. POWerful and beautifully-written post. Thank you so much.

"embedding-friendly media"

Perfect! I remember listening to a "journalist" who had returned from having been embedded early into the Iraq invasion enthusing breathlessly about what "we" did, when he was referring to the movements of the tank in which he sat. That was one of the times I felt my blood turning cold in my veins.

Thank you again.

[JDPriestly]

138. I love this:

" Frank Luntz lives to put smilies on human horror."

[JDPriestly]

79. Very good point. Honestly. I mean the stance she is taking this election cycle.

Who knows where she will be on single payer if her donors from the pharmaceuticals and the for-profit healthcare industry abandon her?

Hard to tell.

[merrily]

82. Still not clear. She's taken more than once stance during this cycle.

For instance, she promised to finish the job on universal health care (whatever that means) during her Iowa Caucus victory speech.

[rhett o rick]

133. How about her position on fracking? The TPP? Student loans?

the Iraq war, all wars, all foreign policy? How about reducing the budget for the MIC? Controlling the banks and Wall Street Gambling Houses? She isn't progressive on medical marijuana or drug laws in general. She was way behind the progressive curve for same sex marriage and many social justice issues.

The financial support she gets from billionaires and corporations is because SHE ISN'T PROGRESSIVE.

[Rebkeh]

34. Progressive or moderate?

We need to clarify what's progressive and what's moderate.

In my view, it is basic: are you trying to create a government that works for the people, the middle class? Or are you trying to serve the moneyed interests? You cannot serve both, today's moderates are trying to keep the perception that they can.

We know better.

[merrily]

102. It's hard to clarify when DLC types, like From, intentionally muddle the meaning in order to

disguise how conservative they are.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/127710158

[Rebkeh]

114. I know, it's maddening.

It's not so complicated though, democracy means of and by the people. There's no getting away from that. Our government hasn't been truly representative since, well, never?

It depends on who you ask when but it sure isn't representative now.

[merrily]

115. Please don't post things like that.

Monsanto, J.P. Morgan and Goldman Sachs are very well represented.

[Rebkeh]

118. They are not people

[merrily]

120. Corporations are people, my friend. Romney said so. So is Wall Street.

Hillary represents it.

I see you're here just to pick fight with me over this silly people need representation meme. Well, i won't take the bait.

[Rebkeh]

123. ???

I meant that it's not complicated to unravel the muddled meanings, conservatives are not consistent with their representation of democracy. They represent corporations, which are not people, no matter what anyone says.

I'm on your side, I've been a Bernie fan for years.

[merrily]

124. Not to worry. I am posting tongue in cheek.

[Rebkeh]

128. K

[rhett o rick]

134. She is to the right of moderate. Her positions that favor major corporation can't

be considered even moderate. When she embraces the corrupt culture of Big Money, she isn't moderate.

[kracer20]

35. Unbelievable (OK, not really)

She and her campaign have the thinnest skin. They play the victim card at any and every chance they can.

[merrily]

38. You take that back!!! Only ONE of her inconsistent statements need be unbelievable.

The other one could conceivably be almost plausible.

[SammyWinstonJack]

51. Hillary can dish it out, but she can't take it. Shocker.

[dorkzilla]

37. Times article is pretty fucking disingenuous not using Hillary's quote about "pleading moderate"

So for the chronically under-informed, it makes Bernie look like a cranky old man which is, no doubt, their intention.

[merrily]

40. The Times, like Bernie, HAS been consistent.

It has undermined Bernie every way it can.

[Angry Dragon]

41. I do not see what Hilllary brings to the table

[merrily]

42. A silver spoon?

[Angry Dragon]

44. At least she was not born with it in her mouth like the Bushes

[merrily]

47. Not as much money as the Bushes, but she grew up in a fairly wealthy

suburb and was able to go to an Ivy League College and an Ivy League law school without student loans or scholarships or a job.

By the standards of that time, that was impressive ability to spend on the part of her parents.

And, how the Clintons have made their hundreds of millions of dollars is not exactly a Horatio Alger story.

[hughee99]

85. A spork, so she can appear to be all things to all people.

Nt

[merrily]

107. Hillary is not wielding any spork, my friend.

However, IIRC, Colbert warned Bernie not to bring a spoon to a knife fight.

[hughee99]

111. I was thinking the spork is a decent analogy for Clinton.

On the surface, it appears to be whatever you want it to be. In reality, you can't rely on it to do what you want it to.

[merrily]

112. That just must be misogynistic in some way. As soon as I figure out why, I'll post again.

[Angry Dragon]

141. ........

[Feeling the Bern]

43. Absolutely entitled. Now, quoting someone is a low blow. Thinnest skin ever!

[merrily]

49. Sanders has no remorse about his ability to recall things from five months ago. That's deplorable.

[Feeling the Bern]

84. Yeah. . .how dare he use the record against her.

[merrily]

99. No words.

Except hers, of course.

[merrily]

45. Devine, on MSNBC just now: If Hillary wants to have a fight over who is the most progressive

candidate, we're ready.

[ybbor]

50. You go Tad!

Keep it real!

[ybbor]

48. You know...

I actually laughed out loud when she said that Monday. She is such a calculated person. I want genuine. "Oh, I really love jazz, I mean punk, err rap, err what do you like?"

God forbid she wins the nomination. We will be royally screwed, cuz there is no way in hell she wins the general.

[merrily]

53. Kidding aside, I have been afraid of a Hillary nomination for that reason all along.

[ybbor]

62. Most of my family are repugs

I know gross, right? And they wonder why I moved 2000 miles away for 15 years.

They hate her with the heat of a1000 white hot Suns and will do whatever it takes to prevent her from being elected. More passion than those who are advocating for her. She cannot win the nomination!

Was it Eisenhower who said, "Better to vote for a conservative because at least you know what your getting, versus a fake liberal who will just screw you in the end." Or something to that effect.

It's time to retake Our party from top to bottom. Bernie's revolution can do just that, all the way down ticket.

Come on people! We are so close!

P.S. I love all that you do merrily! As a "quiet" poster myself, You rock!

[merrily]

69. Thank you so much. I am very grateful that I've always lived in blue states and that my entire

family--parents, sister, aunts, uncles, etc. are New Deal Democrats (NOT New Democrats), with the exception of one person who doesn't talk politics around us.

[ybbor]

72. No problem!

You deserve it. And I love the "other" site, too.

And I have always lived in very liberal areas myself. Ski town in CO, Maui, currently in Ann Arbor, try to stay near my peeps. And not all my family are conservative, most of my siblings are not, my in-laws on the other hand, cuckoo.

We must prevail, and with you and others like you leading the way, I like our chances.
And I will do all I can on my end, so don't feel too much pressure.

[Trajan]

54. I love this one

" ... and that brings people together to find ways forward that will improve the lives of Americans ..."

"Bring people together ..." , i.e. Work with republicans

"Find ways forward", ... i.e. Agree to work on republican legislation to enact laws that republicans would admire ...

Effin Double Talk...

[merrily]

57. From the candidate who tried twice to pass an unconstitutional flag burning bill and failed twice.

I think Republicans themselves must introduce one of those every session, as raw meat for their base.

[Ino]

74. That was when I woke up about her.

Until I heard about Hillary sponsoring a flag-burning amendment, I was on her side. I started paying closer attention after that, and saw all the ways she aligned herself with Repukes.

[merrily]

75. Twice. The first unconstitutional bill failed and she tried another the following year, which also

failed. Thank heaven, that, as a Senator, she was not able to get bills or amendments that she wrote passed into law, unless they were ceremonial, like remembering the anniversary of the American Revolution. (Do many people forget July 4 anyway?)

[merrily]

110. BTW, I believe that Democratic Socialist author of 1984 referred to that kind of talk as

New Democrat Speak New Speak.

[leftcoastmountains]

56. LOL

[merrily]

59. This is series!!!11!

[Kokonoe]

60. Hillary will be the most progressive into New Hampshire.

It's nice to see Bernie expose the truth about Hillary's lies.
Her low blow reactions only reveal a fragile grip of being nominated.

[polly7]

63. LOL I hope this makes it to the greatest page if only for the title itself. nt.

[merrily]

83. Embarrassed to say that it took me all this time to get it, but now that I have....

[Rosa Luxemburg]

64. but what exactly has she done though?

likes to is different from accomplishing

[merrily]

81. I have never received a great answer about that, other than speeches.

I've posted some version of the following when I reply to something claiming Hillary can get things done and Bernie cannot.

While a Senator, Hillary had zero success working with Republicans to get bills she wrote passed, except for strictly ceremonial bills, such as re-naming a post office, remembering Harriet Tubman's birthday and remembering the anniversary of the American Revolution.

She could not even get her two unconstitutional flag desecration bills passed and Republicans themselves have initiated that kind of bill again and again. (For that matter, Bill and Hillary together could not get Billarycare through a Democratic Congress when Bill was President and head of the Democratic Party.) Since her Senate days, she has been gratuitously disrespectful to Republicans, calling them the enemy of which she is most proud and acting a certain way during the Benghazi hearings. I don't think this will help her get things done if she ever becomes President.

Contradistinctively, Bernie and McCain worked on a veterans' bill that passed. The Brookings Institute made a case study in working across the aisle. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/how-bernie-sanders-fought-for-our-veterans-119708 Bernie was also known, in both the House and Senate, as the amendment king--for writing amendments that got passed. One amendment to ACA that he wrote passes (after smart steps on his part), providing $11 billion in health care to those who would not otherwise have received it.

See also, http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/71225/bernie-sanders-is-loud-stubborn-socialist-republicans-like-him-anyway

[AlbertCat]

96. what exactly has she done though?

She has won 2 elections for the same carpetbagger seat in the Senate....which was in prep for her run this time (I think) and not about doing something for NY. (not to mention, anything to get out of AR as fast as possible!)

Her 1st Lady and SoS jobs were handed to her (like she thought this primary was gonna be).

I just and when I see those "She's the most qualified candidate ever!" or "She's the most admired woman in the world" (Oprah's running?). It's ridiculous statements like that from her supporters that makes it clear, if she wins anything, it's because of name recognition.... like Coke, or Kleenex.

[AZ Progressive]

66. Gotta show this here

[merrily]

90. Anyone remember the 80s? Another one with an accent that's "kinda badass:"

[blackspade]

67. A low blow indeed.

By taking her at her word? I guess it depends on what day it is....

[Fawke Em]

68. Y'all seen his badass Tweet?

He crippled her.

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/695019034585219073

Some other days...

[merrily]

89. How dare he list the specific votes she cast and the positions she took, just to back

up his ugly quoting of her own words? (Wow. I hadn't realized she had voted for a fence!)

His low blows have the stench of truth all over them, and that is what really ticks me off.

Although....if he could have tweeted it in his Brooklyn accent, it would have been much more badass.


Shortly after the 1 minute mark

[Fawke Em]

98. You know that Brooklyn accent sounds kind of bad ass.*

*My second post in a row with the word "bad ass" in the title.

[Mufaddal]

71. That's pretty rich

coming from the creator of the 3AM attack ad.

[merrily]

97. In 2008, she bravely let Americans know that, if she was not the nominee, their safety would depend

upon voting for Senator McCain (R), and not Senator Obama (D).

Is it any wonder the Democratic Party has been standing so stolidly behind her in 2016?

[jalan48]

78. Hillary is whatever we want her to be.

Kinda hard to trust a woman who talks like this.

[merrily]

104. The final punch line of Colbert's candidate ice cream flavors segment.

Shortly after 2:20

[jalan48]

106. Exactly! Because it's really all about her.

[AlbertCat]

86. What a low blow!

Quoting your opponent!

My god that's just so sneaky.

There's no precedent for it!

Of course ol' meanie Sanders has been raining on Clinton's coronation from the get go.

So low!








(oh yeah.... )

[Kip Humphrey]

95. INSULTING! As opposed to (the typical) "progressive, who doesn't like to gets things done."

You know, like BERNIE SANDERS and his kind!



Yes, I find this cynical and insulting to all progressives and to the modern progressive movement.

[AlbertCat]

101. What HAS she gotten done?

.... that would be considered progressive?

[merrily]

109. A Democrat's vetoing right wing legislation seems better than lobbying for it.

[Hoppy]

103. Tomorrow and Friday, she's scheduled to be a moderate. I don't know about Satuday, yet.

[merrily]

108. I understand. Weekends are harder to predict.

I once asked an astrologer why we seemed to have bad weather on so many weekends.

She replied something about planets being in fixed signs then, or something like that.

So, there you have it--whatever it means.

[Lorien]

116. She's forever a victim! That was true in 2008 as well

We can't say a thing about her without being told how "mean" we are for "bashing" her with her own record. Well, how "nice" is she to the rest of humanity for doing this?
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/15/the_worst_thing_hillary_clinton_has_ever_done/

Or this? http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron

How sweet and kindly would this be? http://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary-clinton-if-im-president-we-will-attack-iran/5460484

And what kind of a "feminist" does this? https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/03/hillary-clinton-womens-rights-feminism/

And this isn't charming: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/10/14/hillary-takes-millions-in-campaign-cash-from-enemies

None of us have to "bash" Hillary at all; her record speaks for itself!

[merrily]

119. Apparently, citing her record IS bashing her.

[Lorien]

122. Or quoting anything she's ever said

How can such a delicate flower hope to lead the (hardly) free world?

[cui bono]

121. Truth is hard, mmkay?

Hillary STILL doesn't understand that there is now technology available that can record your voice and also post it on this thing called the internet where millions, even billions, can then listen to it over and over again.

If you don't want to own up to what you say, then don't say it. And stop lying. For fuck's sake.

.

[merrily]

125. Per J. Alter on MSNBC last night, every Democratic President has been both progressive and moderate.

Honest to crumpets, they'll mouth any argle bargle on MSNBC to help Hillary defeat Bernie.

You don't change your basic political philosophy, principles and goals day to day. If a liberal compromises to get something done, that doesn't mean the liberal changed into a centrist for that day, ffs.

[bkkyosemite]

126. Her blows are low blows.

[pengu]

127. I'm not interested in going to the purple space

Answering questions at a women's conference in Silicon Valley earlier this week, Hillary Clinton told Re/code's Kara Swisher that if she ran for president, she wanted to "bring people from right, left, red, blue, [and] get them into a nice, warm, purple space where everybody is talking and where we're actually trying to solve problems." At first glance, it's just a twist on a standard throwaway line from an all-but-declared candidate. Few politicians are really against bipartisanship, and everyone wants to solve problems.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/02/hillary-clintons-warm-purple-space/386288/

[merrily]

132. What tends to happen in that space is Democrats and Republicans holding hands to pass

legislation like repeal of Glass Steagall. I'm okay if legislation like that does not pass.

[pengu]

139. And Iraq, and the Patriot Act, and the Bankruptcy Bill, and the TPA/TPP, and ... and ... and ...

It is a difference in values, and they're trying to disguise it as a difference in tactics. It isn't.

[JEB]

135. Laughable Hillary...

[cannabis_flower]

140. If you say one thing with one group

and the opposite with another group it is not a low blow for your opponent to point it out.