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99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 01:18 PM Feb 2016

Which is it? ... or is it "Heads I Win, Tails You Lose?"

Has anyone seen or heard of this? I'm puzzled by it, not certain of the source, but am curious what this
is about, or if there's any basis for the claim that the coin-toss rule in IA give the delegate to the "looser"
not the "winner" of the toss?

According to news outlets, and caucus reporters 6 delegates were given to Clinton because she won a coin toss, however the ruling states that the coin determines not the winner, but the loser of the delegate. Since Clinton won the toss, that means she lost the delegates, and they must go to Bernie instead, meaning he actually is the winner 698-690.

Please share, tweet, and get this message out, so that we can be certain who won the Caucus, and who lost.


Source: https://pivotamerica.com/bernie-wins-in-iowa-winner-of-coin-toss-loses-the-delegate-per-rule-28/

UPDATE: here’s a source I found, though does appear different from the image on twitter, but in rule 26 it does have the same language.. http://www.isea.org/assets/document/IA/2016-1-7%20ISEA%20Caucus%20Kit%201.6.2016.pdf
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Which is it? ... or is it "Heads I Win, Tails You Lose?" (Original Post) 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 OP
more questions... put on your tinfoil hats! Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #1
I heard of it, and I think there's no there there. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #2
Ah! That is helpful. Thank you. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #3
I think a tug-of-war is appropriate n2doc Feb 2016 #4
LOL - well, you do have a point there. nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #5
That sounds like a plan. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #6

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
1. more questions... put on your tinfoil hats!
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 01:40 PM
Feb 2016

What about:
the special Iowa commemorative coins supplied by the Iowa Democratic party used in all of the coin tosses?
the fact that in each case either the precinct captain or the Hillary captain called heads for Hillary?
in each case heads came up?

Special coins used?
All Hillary calls for "Heads"?
All coin-flips were "Heads"?

Question: has anyone examined the coins?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. I heard of it, and I think there's no there there.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 02:20 PM
Feb 2016

The wording is vague, and does not say 'the winner of the toss shall lose a delegate'. It just says a coin toss shall determine who loses a delegate. I think that one is just people reaching.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
3. Ah! That is helpful. Thank you.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 02:25 PM
Feb 2016

Coin tosses are inherently confusing. I wish they drew lots, or scissors/paper/rock,
or maybe tick-tack-toe.

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